Adobe gets back at Apple, HTC wants iPhone out of USA

[rorz0r]

Please direct me to the internet full of apps for symbian.

The only reason Symbian has apps is because for a long time it was basically the only option. Before that was java/midp. (and about 5 people on windows mobile).

Just counted the apps installed on my desire. 57. (admittedly some are pretty silly like "air horn", "dog whistler" and "lady gaga ringtones")
On my E65: 4 (gmail, tomtom, google maps, opera mini 4)

The "Ovi Store" has complete crap on it.
*logs in to ovi*
Recommended for me:
Smell Scanner
Opera Mini
Snaptu
High speed 3d free (slow as anything and graphics really suck)
Office games challenge
Paradise city
Zumzum
Locago
Letters to Juliet - EPKTrailer
Trivial pursuit

Page2:
Mostly rubbish, has trapster but that doesn't actually work on my phone.

 

[Rouxenator]

Ovi Maps I get - but Ovi store ? Who wants to go to a virtual store on the internet to get virtual apps ? Whats wrong with google !

 

[cerebus]

No roux you don't get it... Symbian has NO DECENT APPS. They do not exist.

My experience of trying to read ebooks on iPhone/iTouch:

1: Download Stanza
2: Sync books
3: Read......

My experience of trying to read ebooks on N97/5800XM:

1: Download Mobipocket
2: Realize it isn't compatible with s60v5
3: Rootle around the forums
4: Find obscure Russian app
5: Download.... certificate expired
6: Search around for updated certificate model that doesn't require me to root phone because I know what a nightmare that will be
7: Find copy
8: Try to sync books
9: Realize it's only compatible with 1 ebook format
10: Download format converter
11: Re-sync books to N97
12: Still won't read book
13: Give up in disgust and sell phone.

That's the reality of me trying to get to grips with your lovely Symbian last week. Works great on candybar dumbphones, sucks horribly as a smartphone OS.

 

[Rouxenator]

Mmm, Ovi maps with free lifetime navigation is a pretty sweet app. SynVPN has some awesome tools that makes my 5800xm useful and I really love http://www.thatroachgame.com/ (symbian app). There are millions of other cool apps for Symbian. Apart from that you normally find symbian on high end devices so in total you get a sweet deal from a company that does not hold you (or flash) hostage and shares their innovation with other companies (as long as they share too). But you mentioned the word "books" so I will have to assume you are an old person reading stuff so you are special.

 

[Tanya35]

Symbian is primitive compared to iPhone OS, or even Android. Why do you think iPhone has 200 thousand apps? It's got a sophisticated OS with awesome & modern API's that's why.

• Symbian is so "primitive" it could do multitasking years before Apple attempted it. The iPad doesn't even do true multitasking.
• Cut 'n Paste was also absent on the very advanced iPhone whilst Symbian had this on phones years ago.

 

[assagai]

Ok Roux that last post just blew any shred of credibility I thought you had. "An old person reading stuff so you are special". What does that even mean?

 

[Tanya35]

Please direct me to the internet full of apps for symbian.

The only reason Symbian has apps is because for a long time it was basically the only option. Before that was java/midp. (and about 5 people on windows mobile).

Just counted the apps installed on my desire. 57. (admittedly some are pretty silly like "air horn", "dog whistler" and "lady gaga ringtones")
On my E65: 4 (gmail, tomtom, google maps, opera mini 4)

The "Ovi Store" has complete crap on it.
*logs in to ovi*
Recommended for me:
Smell Scanner
Opera Mini
Snaptu
High speed 3d free (slow as anything and graphics really suck)
Office games challenge
Paradise city
Zumzum
Locago
Letters to Juliet - EPKTrailer
Trivial pursuit

Page2:
Mostly rubbish, has trapster but that doesn't actually work on my phone.

The Ovi store would have worked better if Nokia phones were not hacked. With a hacked Nokia you can download just about any app.

 

[Rouxenator]

LOL ! Yeah, Symbian is so primitive it had USB mass storage mode for years now - only coming out in iPhone OS4.

 

[Rouxenator]

Ok Roux that last poast just blew any shred of credibility I thought you had. "An old person reading stuff so you are special". What does that even mean?

It means that you went for the easy way out of that argument

 

[assagai]

Easy way? Dude you are becoming less coherent with every post!

 

[Rouxenator]

Easy way? Dude you are becoming less coherent with every post!

I meant instead of focusing on the important part of the post you went for the easy bit. The rest of that put pretty much puts apple to shame (although not as good as the guys at Adobe does).

 

[news24]

I used W950 with symbian, and it sucked, I can't even compare it to my Omnia. Roux is a nokia fanboi, you can't win against that.

How long has symbian been around? iPhone OS? Which is the better os NOW? Don't tell me about a year ago, talk about now...

 

[Synaesthesia]

The iPhone only has 200k apps of which most users install 2 or 20 on their iphone. Symbian has an internet full of apps. The iphones uses inferior hardware compared to symbian devices and needs to be jailbroken before it becomes remotely useful. Therefore you cannot call symbian primitive compared against the iphone. Appletude is a serious illness and you seem to suffer from it.

Nope, most Nokia and other cellphone users have 1 App on their phone, Opera Mini.

 

[Rouxenator]

Actually, Opera Mini comes pre-installed on Series40 (Non Symbian, Non Smartphone) phones. Most users of Symbian smartphones opt for Opera Mobile instead since it is an native Sybmian app and it is better than any other mobile browser on earth.

 

[Synaesthesia]

Most users of Symbian smartphones opt for Opera Mobile instead since it is an native Sybmian app and it is better than any other mobile browser on earth.

Well I tried it on my cousin's Sony Xperia X1 and I thought it was great but I still think Safari on the iPhone is better, (and the Android browser).

 

[Rouxenator]

Understandable yes. Some people need less options and whom better to take away "unnecessary options" from them than the Americans.

 

[Synaesthesia]

Why do you think Opera Mobile is better? Here's why I think Mobile Safari/Android browser is better.

Speed: Safari is always running, so it opens instantly, with your current pages already displayed. Opera Mobile takes a few seconds to load. Safari also renders webpages faster and scrolls/zooms much faster.

Safari also renders pages correctly much more often than Opera in my experience. The interface is also way better in my opinion. eg. the double tap to zoom is faster and more reliable than the Opera zoom.

Lastly there are thousands of websites optimized for the iPhone which really makes it a lot better. Eg. Gmail, Facebook

 

[Rouxenator]

Why Opera Mobile is better :
1) It is not from Apple.
2) Its a cross platform browser. (Steve will cry)
3) It has flash support built it. (Steve will really cry)

BTW - it is impossible for Safari to "renders pages correctly much more" since Opera Mobile has an acid3 test score of 100/100.
Perhaps you just prefer looking at pages on inferior 320x480 screens while the rest of the world uses widescreen 640x360 or better displays?

 

[Synaesthesia]

Well not being from Apple or being cross-platform don't really make it a better browser.

Opera Mobile only has support for Flash lite, not Flash.

Safari also gets 100/100 on Acid3. It has the fastest Javascript execution of any mobile browser.

As for the screen if you compare an iPhone and a 5800XM you will see the iPhone is better - it's larger and brighter and browsing the web really does work better.

But hey! I'm obviously not gonna convince you!

 

[Rouxenator]

Seeing the current press releases from Apple it is a good thing if you use software that are not from them. Anti-trust lawsuits are imminent and they are not as large as M$ so I doubt they will handle it as well as M$ did.

Supporting flash lite is still better than supporting flash nada.

Cool, so it also gets 100/100 - they are thus equal in rendering standards.

OK, so basically a 50" HD Ready Plasma screen (1280x720) is much better than a 42" Full HD LCD (1920x1080) because it is "bigger and brighter".... ohkay then