Adobe gets back at Apple, HTC wants iPhone out of USA

[cerebus]

Why Opera Mobile is better :
1) It is not from Apple.
2) Its a cross platform browser. (Steve will cry)
3) It has flash support built it. (Steve will really cry)

Would you just shut up....


On the brightness vs resolution argument... I had a 5800 AND an n97 and the iPhone's screen beats both of then hands down. The quality of 5800's screen is just underwhelming... colours don't stand out in any way. It's not bad, just not great either. Adding a few more pixels doesn't mean anything - my old Dell Axim could do full VGA (vs Nokia's res) but it's killed by today's screens. Now there are AMOLED screens out there that will beat an iphone's, but outdoors legibility is awful.

 

[Synaesthesia]

Well that's just my opinion, and like I said, I'm not gonna convince you!

 

[Synaesthesia]

Opera Mobile certainly is a great browser, no doubt about it. To get a better experience I should probably try it on something newer more high-powered than a Sony Xperia X1.

 

[Rouxenator]

No but you can always try. At least your response contained some worthwhile attempts. "just shut up" is like saying "click click click.... oops, outa ammo!"

 

[cerebus]

No but you can always try. At least your response contained some worthwhile attempts. "just shut up" is like saying "click click click.... oops, outa ammo!"

So is 'It is not from Apple'. Tit for tat.

 

[Synaesthesia]

No but you can always try. At least your response contained some worthwhile attempts. "just shut up" is like saying "click click click.... oops, outa ammo!"

Well I thought I had some good points, eg. Faster. The copy and paste on the iPhone is killer too. But don't take my word for it! Best thing to do is to check it out for yourself.

 

[Rouxenator]

Sure thing. If I have the need for browsing in 320x480 with no flash support and no ability to switch to other running application I will most definitely give the iPhone a try.

 

[Synaesthesia]

Way to keep an open mind there.

 

[cerebus]

You mean you've never even tried iPhone?

 

[Rouxenator]

I've never tried many things before - partly because I already have something better and partly because some things (like contracting squaids) should not be tried at all.

 

[cerebus]

Pah. Come back and talk when you've sat down for any length of time with an iPhone. Until then I think I'll refrain from answering your ill-informed cliched fanboyism.

 

[Rouxenator]

Dude, the whole try it before you deny it or lock before you mock principal is flawed. The iPhone (and apple) is not the answer to everything. Sure it satisfies most op the people but some people are more demanding and evolved (like yours truly) and needs something to suit their right-of-the-median standards.

 

[shaddowdragon]

No roux you don't get it... Symbian has NO DECENT APPS. They do not exist.

My experience of trying to read ebooks on iPhone/iTouch:

1: Download Stanza
2: Sync books
3: Read......

My experience of trying to read ebooks on N97/5800XM:

1: Download Mobipocket
2: Realize it isn't compatible with s60v5
3: Rootle around the forums
4: Find obscure Russian app
5: Download.... certificate expired
6: Search around for updated certificate model that doesn't require me to root phone because I know what a nightmare that will be
7: Find copy
8: Try to sync books
9: Realize it's only compatible with 1 ebook format
10: Download format converter
11: Re-sync books to N97
12: Still won't read book
13: Give up in disgust and sell phone.

That's the reality of me trying to get to grips with your lovely Symbian last week. Works great on candybar dumbphones, sucks horribly as a smartphone OS.

rofl, except I never learnt, have N97 now and one book works. we should design a phone and have it made in China; throw in all the features you want.

 

[Synaesthesia]

Dude, the whole try it before you deny it or lock before you mock principal is flawed.

Yeah totally.

 

[cerebus]

Dude, the whole try it before you deny it or lock before you mock principal is flawed. The iPhone (and apple) is not the answer to everything. Sure it satisfies most op the people but some people are more demanding and evolved (like yours truly) and needs something to suit their right-of-the-median standards.

You have no idea what your standards are because YOU'VE NEVER TRIED ANYTHING BUT SYMBIAN. You just formed a list of reasons not to want one based on some vague stereotypes of Apple pundits....

 

[assagai]

Roux even your beloved gsmarena heroes review the phones based on a hands-on. Maybe you could take a hint from that... Don't expect anyone to take you seriously if you don't have experience. Its a pretty simple concept.

 

[Rouxenator]

Yeah, well, I let them get their hands dirty and contract squaids from phones made in a chinese sweat shop.

 

[cerebus]

See the thing is you're welcome to your opinion but you always end up fartbombing otherwise fruitful threads with your nonsense... Anyways you're fast on the way to becoming first person on my ignore list so far.

 

[assagai]

Yeah, well, I let them get their hands dirty and contract squaids from phones made in a chinese sweat shop.

so i guess that's the oft-touted (by you) easy way out.
Thing is roux, you have a bunch of contradictory double standards and you make up the rules as you go along. Like arguing with add kid who can't remember what he said 5 minutes ago.
Won't be engaging with you on any of these subjects anymore, it's FRUITless

/out

 

[Rouxenator]

Seriously though - it makes no difference to me if you ignore me or think I am the leaders of clan Troll from the planet Trollanus - really, go ahead and ignore me if it makes your iPhone vibrate with more vigor.
This thread is about the unethical and un-competitive behavior of Apple and what reactions that provoked from much bigger industry leaders, like HTC and Adobe (and in other news Nokia).

Sure - the iPhone has an amazingly fluid UI and yes, it is very popular. I am also pretty sure 99% of the people out there (include me) will enjoy the fluid UI and ease of use the iPhone has. No one is disputing that so don't get all defensive on it. Just remember that it does not change anything about the bad practices of Apple nor does it change the grossly overlooked holes in the spec sheet (yes that does matter) of the iPhone.

Pfft, threaten me with "ignore list" - I write essays starting with "Dear Recycle bin" - that's how deranged I am