'Adventurous' women needed as surrogat for Neanderthal baby

[thestaggy]

http://gawker.com/5977130/could-you...-to-the-first-neanderthal-baby-in-30000-years

Are you an adventurous human woman? Adventurous enough to be a surrogate mother for the first Neanderthal baby to be born in 30,000 years?

Harvard geneticist George Church recently told Der Spiegel he's close to developing the necessary technology to clone a Neanderthal, at which point all he'd need is an "adventurous human woman" — einen abenteuerlustigen weiblichen Menschen — to act as a surrogate mother.

It's not out of the question at all. As MIT Technology Review's Susan Young points out, scientists cloned an extinct subspecies of ibex in 2009. It died immediately, sure. But they still cloned it.

Screw the Neanderthal, I want a T-Rex!

EDIT: Please excuse my incorrect spelling of 'surrogate'

 

[Fudzy]

Wonder how the religious zealouts are going to react to this. Surely this is abomination personified?

 

[Techne]

Funny world. People want to abort down syndrome babies but bring neanderthals into the world. Should be interesting though, I consider neanderthals as human.

 

[Zewp]

Funny world. People want to abort down syndrome babies but bring neanderthals into the world. Should be interesting though, I consider neanderthals as human.

Not technically. Humans and neanderthals shared a common ancestor, but neanderthals are not human ancestors.

 

[Techne]

Not technically. Humans and neanderthals shared a common ancestor, but neanderthals are not human ancestors.

Depends on how you define "human". When you consider it as an "intellectual animal" i.e. an animal that has the ability to abstract universals and understand their relations then the argument can be made that neanderthals were human.

 

[Fudzy]

Depends on how you define "human". When you consider it as an "intellectual animal" i.e. an animal that has the ability to abstract universals and understand their relations then the argument can be made that neanderthals were human.

Aren't monkeys then too? Where is the gap?

 

[thestaggy]

Wonder how the religious zealouts are going to react to this. Surely this is abomination personified?

I've already seen a few comments on the Daily Telegraph who also ran the story. They're frothing at the lips.

I'm honestly interested in this, as effed up as it is.

 

[Messugga]

Depends on how you define "human". When you consider it as an "intellectual animal" i.e. an animal that has the ability to abstract universals and understand their relations then the argument can be made that neanderthals were human.

Then by that definition Martians would be humans too?

 

[Techne]

Aren't monkeys then too? Where is the gap?

Why do you think monkeys would qualify as human, given what I said?

Then by that definition Martians would be humans too?

I am ok with that. If there is ET life out there that qualify as intellectual animals, labeling them as human does not appear to be wrong.

 

[Randux]

Nah boring lets create Saiyans. We have the apes we have the humans

 

[MisterFortySomething]

Any species intelligent enough to create something like the internet and stupid enough to then use it for religious flame war is human. Anything else is animal.

 

[ShaunSA]

EDIT: Please excuse my incorrect spelling of 'surrogate'

You are forgiven. Considering they are looking for a surro gat

 

[Vegeta]

Nah boring lets create Saiyans. We have the apes we have the humans

Come on! What am I, chopped liver?

 

[Pooky]

I wouldn't agree with this, purely from the perspective of feeling sorry for whatever is born.

 

[Avenue]

Wonder how the religious zealouts are going to react to this. Surely this is abomination personified?

The religious zealots would have the right of it then. Cool we cloned a Neanderthal, now what? Do they put him in a zoo? Do they send something like that to school to be thrown to the wolves?

 

[DJ...]

EDIT: Please excuse my incorrect spelling of 'surrogate'

That I can forgive. The 'women' bit I cannot...

 

[Zewp]

It's all just journalistic sensationalism. Church discussed the theoretical possibility in an interview, but did say he actually wanted to do it.

Pretty disappointing, though. Would make for some very interesting research.

 

[thestaggy]

That I can forgive. The 'women' bit I cannot...

 

[Fulcrum29]

Harvard geneticist George M. Church (Harvard.edu):

http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/L...fs.com/en/blogs/thesideshow/HarvardChurch.jpg

Ahem!

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/M...TcwMzA1OTIwMw@@._V1._SY314_CR0,0,214,314_.jpg

:erm:

 

[thestaggy]

Harvard geneticist George M. Church (Harvard.edu):

http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/L...fs.com/en/blogs/thesideshow/HarvardChurch.jpg

Ahem!

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/M...TcwMzA1OTIwMw@@._V1._SY314_CR0,0,214,314_.jpg

:erm:

Looks exactly like a person looking to breed a "freak" should!