AfriForum reveals: 56 white schoolgirls excluded from Gauteng netball teams based on their race

MightyQuin

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Again not the point I'm making.

Do you deny that football, rugby, cricket, tennis, motorsports, basketball, american football and athletics are far more popular than hockey and netball beyond high school?
Then the "point" you're making has fukall to do with this thread.
 

MightyQuin

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A lot of the schools in the 90s would disagree with the "have to do it" oh you don't have to do sport as an extra mural... .
Can I borrow your time machine please? Since I'm stuck in 2019....
 

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Yes, South African schools do try to force children to take part in sport. Many will also try to force your child to do one of the sports the school offers regardless of your child's actual interests. Some of have become a little progressive in allowing children to play a sport outside of school instead, but still expect parents to justify and provide proof.


Schools do seem to have an obsession with forcing children to play sport in spite of the alleged social aspect being negative for those who don't really want to play or are not that good at it (those children tend to face harassment and bullying by their so-called team), and there being plenty of ways to be active. Any sport should be done only because the child really wants to play.
None of the schools my kids are and were in up to now, have ever forced any child to do sport.

It is a ridiculous, sweeping statement to make.
 

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So you don't deny it? Thought so.
Deny what exactly?

All your breathless little rant was about, was that school hockey and netball "leads" nowhere.

I said that, that was completely beside the point.

Then the thread degenerated into more BS about schools forcing kids to do sport....

So what do you want from me further, apart from entertaining you further in a completely pointless, and resultless, internet argument?

Pfft....
 

Knyro

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Deny what exactly?

All your breathless little rant was about, was that school hockey and netball "leads" nowhere.

I said that, that was completely beside the point.

Then the thread degenerated into more BS about schools forcing kids to do sport....

So what do you want from me further, apart from entertaining you further in a completely pointless, and resultless, internet argument?

Pfft....
LOL rant? It was an off the cuff observation that you guys decided to turn into something it wasn't.
 
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I look forward to the day when a statement like "We shouldn't be discriminating against people based on the colour of their skin" isn't controversial.
 

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Affirmative action is not discrimination according to the constitution.
 

Fulcrum29

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Affirmative action is not discrimination according to the constitution.
It is the exercise and practice thereof which is discriminating. Affirmative action should have started with bringing up the education of the ‘poor’ to an equal level of the ‘privileged’ if I may say, and provided support for those of poorer education until we have achieved equality. Support through means of workshops, higher education, etc, providing implied skills and improving basic skills.

Instead, they went about lowering education across the board, lowered the entry point for further education and did forced integration in the workplace (and sports), supported by a quota based and empowerment scorecard system.
 

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https://www.afriforum.co.za/afriforum-reveals-56-white-schoolgirls-excluded-gauteng-netball-teams-based-race/

AfriForum reveals: 56 white schoolgirls excluded from Gauteng netball teams based on their race

The civil rights organisation AfriForum revealed in Pretoria today that this organisation had obtained the score sheets of the selectors of the Gauteng Under 12 to Under 18 school teams. These score sheets prove that 56 white girls, who should have been selected to the teams on merit according to the selectors’ assessments, were however excluded from the teams because of their race.


AfriForum has already submitted written official complaints to Netball South Africa (NSA), South African Schools Netball (SASN) and Gauteng Schools Netball (GSN) on behalf of the parents of twelve of the prejudiced girls. These complaints demand, among other, that racial quotas be abolished and that the prejudiced girls should receive written confirmation from GSN that they should indeed have been selected to the teams based on merit. (The complete complaint and the selectors’ score sheets are attached hereto.)

AfriForum and the parents indicated in their complaints to the above netball institutions that, if their demands are not met within 14 days, an official complaint against NSA of racial discrimination would be submitted to the International Netball Federation (INF). If necessary, the case will also be taken to the international Court of Arbitration for Sports (CAS). The INF’s rules, as well as those of the International Olympic Committee and the Commonwealth Games Federation, prohibit any form of racial discrimination explicitly.

Kallie Kriel, CEO of AfriForum, points out that the 56 girls who were prejudiced simply because of their skin colour were born between 2001 and 2007. They were therefore born after former President Nelson Mandela’s term of office.

“The dignities of these young girls are seriously violated because they are being punished for a former order in which they had no part,” Kriel adds. Kriel asks how one should explain to a 12-year-old girl that she is good enough to make the team, but that her race (over which she has no control) determines that she cannot make the team.

According to Kriel, NSA and other South African sports bodies repeatedly try to justify their racial discrimination against children with a quota system by painting it as an attempt to rectify inequality by offering opportunities to children from poor, disadvantaged schools without access to proper facilities or coaching. An analysis of the team selections of the Gauteng schools’ teams shows that 49 of the 56 girls who were selected based on race (and not merit) attend affluent schools (private or former Model C schools) with proper facilities and coaches. “This means that the racial discrimination that accompanies team selections is nothing more than an attempt to serve a racially-driven ideology and is not aimed at creating opportunities for poor children,” Kriel says.

Kriel points out that AfriForum is strongly in favour of the development of netball players from poor communities. “The fact that the team selection figures indicate that NSA failed miserably in developing players from poor schools, cannot be used as justification for NSA to hide its own failures by now blatantly discriminating against school children based on their race, and by violating their dignity.”

According to Kriel, 42 black girls made the Gauteng teams on merit. It is tragic that this significant number of good black players is now also jeopardised because the racial quota system brand them unfairly with the quota label.

AfriForum’s letter also demands that the South African netball institutions provide an explanation of which objective criteria are used to classify children in terms of race without their parents’ knowledge for the purpose of team selection. AfriForum also demands that NSA provides the organisation with a detailed explanation of its development initiatives for poor communities, as AfriForum would willingly provide positive inputs to improve NSA’s plans, which are most probably unsuccessful, as the lack of children from poor schools selected for teams clearly shows.

According to Henk Maree, Head of AfriForum Youth, NSA’s discrimination against white school girls is but one of many examples of how young people, who want to make a positive contribution to their provinces and country, are being alienated on a large scale because they are treated as second-rate citizens in their own country because of their skin colour. Maree points out that AfriForum Youth will never accept this kind of treatment of children and young people and that his organisation will employ every mechanism at their disposal to fight to the end for a society in which all young people are treated as first-class citizens.

According to AfriForum, the public can help to show that there is wide opposition against the quota system, by adding their names to the complaint against NSA that will be submitted to the international bodies. The public can add their names at https://www.afriforum.co.za/stopquotas-may-2019/ or by sending an SMS with their names to -32687 (R1).
Yup. Basically reaffirming my belief that my children have zero future in this place.
 

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Yup. Basically reaffirming my belief that my children have zero future in this place.
Exactly this crap that saw a friend and his wife packing their bags. Both expert level skills highly sought after. Their son was not selected for cricket, guess why? An Aussie school was so impressed, he has a scholarship based upon his abilities.

One day he might come and whip the Proteas behinds. Talking of which ... oh nvm.:rolleyes:
 

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Exactly this crap that saw a friend and his wife packing their bags. Both expert level skills highly sought after. Their son was not selected for cricket, guess why? An Aussie school was so impressed, he has a scholarship based upon his abilities.

One day he might come and whip the Proteas behinds. Talking of which ... oh nvm.:rolleyes:
Kevin Pieterson comes to mind. Left for England because he couldn't get selected because of the colour of his skin. And we all know how that worked out.
 

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Kevin Pieterson comes to mind. Left for England because he couldn't get selected because of the colour of his skin. And we all know how that worked out.
Except he was shyte when he left being a spin bowler decided on being a batsman he would not have made it if he didn't leave irrelevant of quotas or not.
 

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I've always been quite surprised at the popularity of netball and hockey in SA schools, despite the fact that they are dead-end sports that almost nobody cares about beyond high-school.
I was put off hockey when a mate came to school the one day with a cracked eye socket
 

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Do those 56 that were chosen have the actual skills and abilities to also play as well, or even better, than those not chosen because of the racist laws or are they only chosen because of their skin colour?
 

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Please man. Numbers don't lie, look up the popularity, money spent on and viewership levels for hockey and netball beyond highschool. Almost nobody cares about them.

You're the one letting your biases lead you. Just lol at that "worthwhile" point you're trying to push that I didn't even bring up, as if the other, far more popular sports don't do the same.
It is still important to the ones participating. So how about one keeping the racism out of the sport?
 

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Do Afriforum do this type of thing for black kids too?
In response to your leading question, ...... do you know of any case where Afriforum turned down a request for assistance from black kids or their parents?

Afriforum's track record would suggest that they would most certainly assist, but your blinkers won't allow you to see that.
 
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