Air Force Academy promotes fellowship that bans ‘cisgender' men: ‘This program isn’t for you’

konfab

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For one, this is a Fellowship: a principle you chose to ignore. There are many scholorships in the US aimed at men only. Why are you cherry picking this one?

Not to ignore the Amelia Earhart Fellowship are older than all men here.
It is a private non-profit. So I ask again, the principle at play is: is it ok for a private organization to discriminate on the basis of sex and race.

On that principle, I personally actually think it is ok if a private organisation does it, even if it is reprehensible. It is their money so they can do it whatever they want.

What is of greater concern is that the US Air force, which is a publicly funded organisation is promoting this organisation that blatantly discriminates against people. Which goes against the equal protection clause of the US constitution.
 

WizardOfAges

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A fellowship program can decide who they want to sponsor. Why are you all so upset about this?
 

WizardOfAges

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Should a bakery be allowed to not make a gay wedding cake?
Two completely different scenarios. One is a program who donates money. They only have a set amount of funding to sponsor people, so not everybody can be in the program. The other is a purchase.
 

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Inspiring trannies, black people and feminists to put themselves on the front line is a stroke of genius if you think about it, especially since the US is going to send troops to Taiwan when China invades. No straight white men should be a part of that operation. They can just stay at home.
Benghazi, Somalia, Saigon, Kabul, etc... those straight white men sure can carry out a successful operation.
 
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It is a private non-profit. So I ask again, the principle at play is: is it ok for a private organization to discriminate on the basis of sex and race.

On that principle, I personally actually think it is ok if a private organisation does it, even if it is reprehensible. It is their money so they can do it whatever they want.

Fellowships are what it is, and it will have its attached association with people who have something in common. Fundamentally this cannot be outrightly changed or altered, since this requires a social litmus test, men still go to the gents and women still go to the ladies, and yes, there are gender-neutral restrooms. Scholarships naturally exclude some people because they don’t have any association. Yes, I am in the mind, that private organisations should have the right to construct their own culture, and I don’t see this as reprehensible, but rather supporting organic change (which takes will, and most patiently, time).

The Brooke Owens Fellowship is not only private, but also voluntary. Nobody has cried over the Amelia Earhart Fellowship. Let’s not muck around, men have long held an advantage come to scholarships, in general, which has been set up in legacy to maintain an ethic and culture to sustain some harmony amongst men, and yes, the same values are being shown by the Fellowship in question.

What is of greater concern is that the US Air force, which is a publicly funded organisation is promoting this organisation that blatantly discriminates against people. Which goes against the equal protection clause of the US constitution.

They circulate the Fellowship opportunties, which have a very limited intake, and did promote other Fellowships,

"If you are a cisgender man, this program isn’t for you... but we encourage you to check out our spinoff programs, the Patti Grace Smith Fellowship and the Matthew Isakowitz Fellowship Program."

let's check these two out,


Empowering Black Excellence in Aerospace.​


black people only, and


which has the largest intake between the three and also the longest paid internship, and to quote,

The Program’s structure is patterned on the prestigious Brooke Owens Fellowship Program. Inspired by its great success and with the full support of its founders, the Matthew Isakowitz Fellowship uses a similar model but focuses specifically on the commercial spaceflight industry and expands eligibility to men and women who are soon-to-be college graduates or current graduate students, with the goal of providing professional development to those who have narrowed their desired career path to the commercial space industry.

and also have the most relaxed eligibility clause, however, I am sure the mentors know who they want, so you best be academically prestigious.

I have gone through many other Fellowships and scholarships in the US now, almost all have their exclusivity clauses. There is an elimination process to everything, otherwise you would risk to change your qualities - slow but steady, I say. Radical change may sink the ship.

Public organisations and institutions should always be open to all citizens, irrespectively. As it also is, private organisations, are under scrutiny and big calls are being made to change institutional culture. Though I don't think too many people know what they are drumming on. I have experienced organic success in various aspects.

Look, this Fellowship is an option, there are many other options too, and most applicants won't cut it.
 

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How is it an attack on masculinity if we allow different people to do the same things men do?
Because they're not allowing men who identify as men to apply...work it out for yourself. It's incredibly simple.
 

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Because they're not allowing men who identify as men to apply...work it out for yourself. It's incredibly simple.
Why should they? There are other fellowships for men. The article is obviously just trying to sow dissent. Typical of Fox News. It's incredibly simple.
 

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Someone who excuses nonsense like this going on. You do realise there is an attack on masculinity going on around the world. Right?
I don't excuse any nonsense or discrimination. This is one fellowship/bursary/program/whatever for these people and now it's a bad thing. How many are there for men? No, apparently I did not get the memo. Must I join you in fearing for our masculinity?
 

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I don't excuse any nonsense or discrimination. This is one fellowship/bursary/program/whatever for these people and now it's a bad thing. How many are there for men? No, apparently I did not get the memo. Must I join you in fearing for our masculinity?
This sort of thing is almost always subtle.

I don't give a sh)t what you join. You need to realise that.
Go do some research and see what's happening.

Have a good weekend doing so.
 
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