"All indications" that Delta variant is causing Gauteng's surge in cases - Madhi

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Deadlier coronavirus variant ravaging Gauteng

A deadlier, more transmissible variant of the coronavirus first detected in India is the likeliest explanation for the current surge in Covid-19 cases and hospitalisations in Gauteng.

This is according to Professor Shabir Madhi, director of the Vaccines and Infectious Diseases Analytical Research Unit at Wits University, who was speaking to news channel eNCA.

"All indications unfortunately are that we are probably dealing with the spread of a new variant — the Delta variant in particular," Mahdi stated.

This, combined with waning immunity among those who already caught the virus, is the most probable reason for the surge in Covid-19 cases in South Africa, he said.
 

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So, since this could be the Delta variant I guess the 12 weeks window between shots will be shortened back to 8 weeks, or will we be trusting Lancet?

England is back to 8 weeks due to the Delta variant. 12 weeks didn't prove to be the right window given this particular variant.
 

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Deadlier coronavirus variant ravaging Gauteng

A deadlier, more transmissible variant of the coronavirus first detected in India is the likeliest explanation for the current surge in Covid-19 cases and hospitalisations in Gauteng.

This is according to Professor Shabir Madhi, director of the Vaccines and Infectious Diseases Analytical Research Unit at Wits University, who was speaking to news channel eNCA.

"All indications unfortunately are that we are probably dealing with the spread of a new variant — the Delta variant in particular," Mahdi stated.

This, combined with waning immunity among those who already caught the virus, is the most probable reason for the surge in Covid-19 cases in South Africa, he said.
That was a quick turnaround. Only last week he was still supporting the idea that the variant dominating was the original SA variant, with the India variant not accounting for much.

I think we need to await the other prof, the one who really crunches the numbers and does the sequencing before we pronounce on this one.
 

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This is what is very concerning about the India variant:

Mahdi explained that the Delta variant is 60% more transmissible than the Beta variant of the coronavirus.


It is also more virulent
— meaning that it results in a greater likelihood of developing serious disease, he said.

The first statement is in line with what we were told when the SA variant emerged in SA - more transmissible but less virulent - based on previous experience and knowledge about mutations and the resulting variants.

Now along comes this one which is more transmissible AND more virulent - once again turning current knowledge on its head.
 
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That was a quick turnaround. Only last week he was still supporting the idea that the variant dominating was the original SA variant, with the India variant not accounting for much.
This is an example of why there is public mistrust. Doctors should be speaking in terms of what is known and the media should be more responsible when dealing with fact vs opinion.
 

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They need to make up their ****ing minds.

Is this the Indian or South African variant?

Information keeps changing every alternate day.
 

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We are massively ****ed if this is the Indian variant in Gauteng.

The government is not prepared for this.

India saw immense tragedy due to lack of preparation. The same will happen to SA.

Our vaccination program is lagging to say the least.

Ffs allow Drs to freely prescribe Ivermectin.
It might be the only viable thing we have at the moment.
 

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This is what is very concerning about the India variant.\:



The first statement is in line with what we were told when the SA variant emerged in SA - more transmissible but less virulent - based on previous experience and knowledge about mutations and the resulting variants.

Now along comes this one which is more transmissible AND more virulent - once again turning current knowledge on its head.
Let it mutate to try spread, instead of letting it burn out in the general population, who's bright idea was locking perfectly healthy people away??
It's almost as if the lockdowns are coming to bite back. Cause the virus is just doing what it wants to spread.
 

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That's not what the genome sequencing was telling us. Multiple scientists said the Beta variant was still dominant.
We will know in 2 weeks if the deaths go up dramatically, if they remain where they are now that should be more an indication of Beta.
But I have noticed testing has increased as there is a mobile site at Hillfox that was empty for months that had a queue stretching a couple hundred meters. No one looked sick.
Also Lancet queues a few hundred meters, no one looks sick either, so testing is increased.
 

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A scientific studypeer reviewed and published indicates that taking ivermectin reduces transmission by 82 percent. Every single person in the country should be taking ivermectin.
Oh wait no that’s illegal….You cant end all this now?? What about the moneeeey?
 

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This is an example of why there is public mistrust. Doctors should be speaking in terms of what is known and the media should be more responsible when dealing with fact vs opinion.
When doctors speak about what is known they get censored
Eg Pierre Kory

There's what is known and then there's what the WHO dictates
 
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