Alternatives to the SABC TV licence being considered

quovadis said:
If only people would discuss possible alternatives 🤔
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the best alternative is to liquidate and get rid of the SABC for good

the second best alternative is to actually complete the DTT migration that is long overdue, DVB-T2 has conditional access capability, you don't pay you don't watch ... of course SABC will still be bankrupt, because nobody wants to watch the trash it produces, but at least it can eradicate any free riders
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
the best alternative is to liquidate and get rid of the SABC for good
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Different topic.
NarrowBandFtw said:
the second best alternative is to actually complete the DTT migration that is long overdue, DVB-T2 has conditional access capability, you don't pay you don't watch ... of course SABC will still be bankrupt, because nobody wants to watch the trash it produces, but at least it can eradicate any free riders
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Did you miss the part where conditional access was scrapped a decade ago?
 
quovadis said:
Did you miss the part where conditional access was scrapped a decade ago?
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Scrapped by who? It is defined and implemented by the DVB-T2 standard, certainly was not scrapped from the standard.
Of course the ANC government can choose not to implement it, but that is their choice.

Fair to say I "missed the part" where conditional access was scrapped, if in fact it was, I don't follow this closely as I'm not all that interested. But as far as I know we plan to implement DVB-T2, and DVB-T2 supports conditional access.
 
Brian_G said:
I remember reading long ago that TV licenses are a small fraction of what the SABC used to get as income. Most of it used to come from ADVERTS.

They (ANC) only have themselves to blame
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Very true, the vast majority of their income prior to cloudy with a chance of total failure was advertising. Difficult to find articles now days, anything prior to '94 seems to have been archived.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
Scrapped by who? It is defined and implemented by the DVB-T2 standard, certainly was not scrapped from the standard.
Of course the ANC government can choose not to implement it, but that is their choice.

Fair to say I "missed the part" where conditional access was scrapped, if in fact it was, I don't follow this closely as I'm not all that interested. But as far as I know we plan to implement DVB-T2, and DVB-T2 supports conditional access.
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Back in 2013 the SABC decided against it. That, together with Multichoice allegedly lobbying a deal which would only be supported if the SABC didn't opt for it. The 5 million or so STB's distributed don't support it either.
 
quovadis said:
Back in 2013 the SABC decided against it. That, together with Multichoice allegedly lobbying a deal which would only be supported if the SABC didn't opt for it. The 5 million or so STB's distributed don't support it either.
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so they chose it, but the standard still supports it

I'd be very surprised if you can have a DVB-T2 compatible device that cannot be cut off from a signal for non-payment seeing as it is defined in the standard itself
 
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NarrowBandFtw said:
so they chose it, but the standard still supports it

I'd be very surprised if you can have a DVB-T2 compatible device that cannot be cut of from a signal for non-payment seeing as it is defined in the standard itself
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Errr they’re broadcasting without.
 
dualmeister said:
"Household taxes"
"levies on local and international streaming services"
Force people to pay for something they don't use.
And people still vote for these thieves.
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It's not the voters who will be taxed ...
 
quovadis said:
What is your point? Encryption is no longer an option.
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of course it is still an option, it will always remain an option given that there is no technical limitation to it being used

it's not like they'd need to migrate again or have some massive rollout, everything would already be in place to use encryption, all that's missing is the decision to use it

we all know why SABC would not want encryption, because they'd just lose their entire viewership and would have to finally admit that nobody is willing to pay for their broadcast

but as long as they pretend many people would pay, they just don't pay, DVB-T2 solves the "official" problem

... nothing can solve the real problem
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
of course it is still an option, it will always remain an option given that there is no technical limitation to it being used

it's not like they'd need to migrate again or have some massive rollout, everything would already be in place to use encryption, all that's missing is the decision to use it

we all know why SABC would not want encryption, because they'd just lose their entire viewership and would have to finally admit that nobody is willing to pay for their broadcast

but as long as they pretend many people would pay, they just don't pay, DVB-T2 solves the "official" problem

... nothing can solve the real problem
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Besides the 5 million STB's that don't have encryption modules?
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
literally impossible, if they comply with the DVB-T2 standard (which they must) they can decrypt

... PS: decrypt, the STB receives encrypted content, it doesn't encrypt anything itself
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Sorry to break it to you but the government STBs don't have modules to handle encrypted signals. I'm sure you're probably also not aware of the constitutional court case regarding it not being mandated.
 
quovadis said:
Sorry to break it to you but the government STBs don't have modules to handle encrypted signals. I'm sure you're probably also not aware of the constitutional court case regarding it.
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the government doesn't build STB's, they buy them, and if they could even find an STB that is built for DVB-T2 yet doesn't support the actual standard that would be quite a feat

feel free to cite any of your clearly incorrect sources
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
the government doesn't build STB's, they buy them, and if they could even find an STB that is built for DVB-T2 yet doesn't support the actual standard that would be quite a feat

feel free to cite any of your clearly incorrect sources
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What part of this don't you understand? The boxes don't have the capability.

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www.saflii.org

This case revolved around whether STBs provided to low-income households should include encryption capabilities. The Constitutional Court upheld the Minister of Communications' decision not to mandate encryption in government-subsidised STBs, finding that the Minister acted within her legal authority and that the decision did not violate any constitutional rights.
 
quovadis said:
What part of this don't you understand? The boxes don't have the capability.

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www.saflii.org

This case revolved around whether STBs provided to low-income households should include encryption capabilities. The Constitutional Court upheld the Minister of Communications' decision not to mandate encryption in government-subsidised STBs, finding that the Minister acted within her legal authority and that the decision did not violate any constitutional rights.
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they have a control system nonetheless, as mandated by SANS 862
 
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