Alternatives to www.stealthywealth.co.za

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holler

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This website has probably thought me more about personal finance than 18 years work experience in financial services and a bunch of degrees (including a MBA and soon-to-be completed Masters in Finance) combined. It's sad that the owner has emigrated.

Do you have any recommendations for local websites?
 
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koffiejunkie

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If you haven't yet, I recommend the Fat Wallet podcast. It has ended now, but the back catalog is still on-line (the feed doesn't go back all the way, but the older episodes are on the website). Definitely woth listening through the entire catalog.
 
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roskii

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Not many local sites besides JustOneLap & Stealthy. Here are some international ones that I find superb.

The Irrelevant Investor

Investing and Personal Finance
theirrelevantinvestor.com theirrelevantinvestor.com
www.collaborativefund.com

Morgan Housel

Morgan Housel is a partner at Collaborative Fund and a former columnist at The Motley Fool and The Wall Street Journal. Author of the book The Psychology of Money.
www.collaborativefund.com www.collaborativefund.com

Of Dollars And Data – Act Smarter. Live Richer.

Act Smarter. Live Richer.
ofdollarsanddata.com ofdollarsanddata.com

These podcasts have taught me a hell of a lot around both the personal finance side of things, as well as bigger macroeconomic topics. Highly recommend all of them.

Local

JustOneLap - Fat Wallet Show (ended but tons of great eps)
Moneyweb Show - Daily
The Experts by Strictly Business - Weekly Wrapup, also anything with Wayne McCurrie & David Shapiro

International

Animal Spirits
Odd Lots

Lastly, there are some great Newsletters (mostly on Substack). All international. Lots of meme's, love it haha.

Grit Capital
Litquidity
Ramp Capital
Not Boring
 
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hj007

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3 others local ones I've come across - they're more financial blogs than advisory, but SA-based:
www.investorchallenge.co.za/blog
doginvestor.com
tribalfi.com

But I'm looking for a community to discuss investment stuff, like the mentor forums on esimoney.com which has people talking about investments and wealth building particularly in an SA context. Any ideas since using mybb for that isn't quite the right forum?
 
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holler said:
This website has probably thought me more about personal finance than 18 years work experience in financial services and a bunch of degrees (including a MBA and soon-to-be completed Masters in Finance) combined. It's sad that the owner has emigrated.

Do you have any recommendations for local websites?
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Thor

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roskii said:
Not many local sites besides JustOneLap & Stealthy. Here are some international ones that I find superb.

The Irrelevant Investor

Investing and Personal Finance
theirrelevantinvestor.com theirrelevantinvestor.com
www.collaborativefund.com

Morgan Housel

Morgan Housel is a partner at Collaborative Fund and a former columnist at The Motley Fool and The Wall Street Journal. Author of the book The Psychology of Money.
www.collaborativefund.com www.collaborativefund.com

Of Dollars And Data – Act Smarter. Live Richer.

Act Smarter. Live Richer.
ofdollarsanddata.com ofdollarsanddata.com

These podcasts have taught me a hell of a lot around both the personal finance side of things, as well as bigger macroeconomic topics. Highly recommend all of them.

Local

JustOneLap - Fat Wallet Show (ended but tons of great eps)
Moneyweb Show - Daily
The Experts by Strictly Business - Weekly Wrapup, also anything with Wayne McCurrie & David Shapiro

International

Animal Spirits
Odd Lots

Lastly, there are some great Newsletters (mostly on Substack). All international. Lots of meme's, love it haha.

Grit Capital
Litquidity
Ramp Capital
Not Boring
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Platinumwealth.co.za

Platinum Wealth JSE Financial Investment Forum

JSE Investment and Finance Forum. Communicate with friendly, like-minded people in our many different Personal Finance and JSE investing forums.
Platinumwealth.co.za Platinumwealth.co.za
 
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cguy

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My usual Spiel on this:
Read enough to not make any stupid mistakes, but the benefits of further reading are of diminishing value, and eventually it becomes more worthwhile to maximize what you are investing, rather than obsess over what/how to invest.

Tl;dr Don’t be that person spending man-years optimizing a tiny portfolio rather than figuring out how to earn more.

(Note that tiny and the value of a man year are relative notions and apply across the wealth spectrum)
 
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hj007

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cguy said:
My usual Spiel on this:
Read enough to not make any stupid mistakes, but the benefits of further reading are of diminishing value, and eventually it becomes more worthwhile to maximize what you are investing, rather than obsess over what/how to invest.

Tl;dr Don’t be that person spending man-years optimizing a tiny portfolio rather than figuring out how to earn more.

(Note that tiny and the value of a man year are relative notions and apply across the wealth spectrum)
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Agreed. And once you earn more there comes a point where the capital earns more than additional income. Then you have options, to earn more or to earn differently to your past :)
 
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InvisibleJim

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cguy said:
My usual Spiel on this:
Read enough to not make any stupid mistakes, but the benefits of further reading are of diminishing value, and eventually it becomes more worthwhile to maximize what you are investing, rather than obsess over what/how to invest.

Tl;dr Don’t be that person spending man-years optimizing a tiny portfolio rather than figuring out how to earn more.

(Note that tiny and the value of a man year are relative notions and apply across the wealth spectrum)
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That's actually a good point. I have to admit I'm guilty of this to a large extent.
 
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Moneyweb.co.za is still good - some comments on articles too.

I know its not directly comparable to Stealthywealth just thought to mention it
 
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cguy

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hj007 said:
Agreed. And once you earn more there comes a point where the capital earns more than additional income. Then you have options, to earn more or to earn differently to your past :)
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Yeah. I try to think of both investment income and salary as “yield”. So, say I’ve got R1m saved, and my passive income is 10% or R100k/y, and then say my savings from my job are R150k/y, I would consider how much time I would have to spend to grow my investments to say R200k/y, vs growing my job savings to R250k/y (both paths would increase yield by 10%/y or R100k (at present)).

The key consideration in the above is that it is probably much harder to grow the income investment above than to increase one’s savings. The former requires a lot of research, and will most likely require taking on a lot of risk. The latter one typically has more control over (can spend less, and can look for a raise/promotion/new-job/upskill/side-gig/etc.).
 
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hj007

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cguy said:
Yeah. I try to think of both investment income and salary as “yield”. So, say I’ve got R1m saved, and my passive income is 10% or R100k/y, and then say my savings from my job are R150k/y, I would consider how much time I would have to spend to grow my investments to say R200k/y, vs growing my job savings to R250k/y (both paths would increase yield by 10%/y or R100k (at present)).

The key consideration in the above is that it is probably much harder to grow the income investment above than to increase one’s savings. The former requires a lot of research, and will most likely require taking on a lot of risk. The latter one typically has more control over (can spend less, and can look for a raise/promotion/new-job/upskill/side-gig/etc.).
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Agreed, I'm not much for picking specific investments. I think generally broad based equities are fine.

I'm thinking more along the lines that when you're at R20m in investments and your job pays R2m-R4m per annum but is high stress, you start to have options as to whether to carry on and grow wealthy or to switch to something else that you've wanted to pursue but provides less/part time or no income but is satisfying in some other form or a business or gain job autonomy if thats missing etc.
 
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