am i allowed to set up a 5.6GHz connection between 2 properties

[Argus]

Hi

basically am i allowed to put a dish on both my properties 3Km apart in order to share 1 internet connection?
or do i need to get a license from ICASA?

my one property can't get good internet speeds because it is too far from the exchange
(can only get 512)

what i want to do is put a dish at my other house that can get a good 6Mbps connection and link it to the other using the 5.8GHz wireless range

allowing both sites to share 1 internet connection @ at 6Mbps

 

[Elvis007]

Yes you are allowed to put that up.

But not to sure about sharing the internet over the wireless link, but they will never know that you are sharing it, so I would not even worry about them.

and at 3km apart you don't need a dish, will be a waste of money, get two 24dbi grids, will be more than enough

 

[MiY4Gi]

If both houses belong to you, then you're good to go.

 

[ColinR]

Choose 2 of any of these. Done.

 

[Wimhotep]

Yes , both properties need to be owned by you.
use NANO stations from MIRO..

http://www.miro.co.za/detail.aspx?pid=662&p=&sp=&spp=

 

[Cicero]

What other kit do you need with this kind of setup?

 

[Argus]

thanks for the replies

well the one property is owned by me and the other is owned by my parents
i'm going to guess that is okay

as @markface asks
what else is required?

i was going to get one those wug kits that the wugs use and set it up
if the miro unit is a all in one then thats great
http://www.miro.co.za/detail.aspx?pid=662&p=&sp=&spp=

 

[Argus]

Choose 2 of any of these. Done.

looking at these
they don't look like kits
by the looks of it you need one of the Rocket units which connects to a grid/dish

and that is powered with POE
and it just connects to a switch

the Rocket unit has all the management software/PC boards in it (that is the brains of the system)

Edit:
or you get one of the nanostations which is an all in one solution
http://www.ubnt.com/nanostationm

 

[Elvis007]

Just make sure when you buy the equipment (if you go with one of the nano's) that they can connect to each other, ie you can make on the AP and other the client. I know with the mikrotik products one side must have L4 license to broadcast, a L3 license can only connect to an AP that is broadcasting... so don't buy 2 mikrotik routers that have both L3 lics on...

 

[ColinR]

they don't look like kits

If you get 2 Nanobridges. You simply throw it onto the roof. Plug a network cable in, run it down to the POE injector (included), that connects to your switch.

The devices need no licences - just plug and play. Much simpler config than Mikrotik devices.

 

[murray654]

I know with the mikrotik products one side must have L4 license to broadcast, a L3 license can only connect to an AP that is broadcasting... so don't buy 2 mikrotik routers that have both L3 lics on...

I have 2 mikrotik routers with L3 licence connecting happily. You just have to use the correct settings.

The wireless settings: One end is "station wds" and the other end is in "bridge" mode.

The level 3 license restricts both ends to one connection either as a client or as a master or server or whatever you want to call it. It prevents you from allowing multiple clients to connect to your router.

 

[Elvis007]

I have 2 mikrotik routers with L3 licence connecting happily. You just have to use the correct settings.

The wireless settings: One end is "station wds" and the other end is in "bridge" mode.

The level 3 license restricts both ends to one connection either as a client or as a master or server or whatever you want to call it. It prevents you from allowing multiple clients to connect to your router.

Are you not maybe mistaken the ROS version for the lic version? Because no RB with a L3 lic can broadcast any sort of signal for anything to connect to....

Mybe you are running ROS 3.30 or whatever, but it has a L4 lic on....

 

[profpanda]

These guys are cheaper and beter than Miro,www.dbg.co.za

 

[ColinR]

These guys are cheaper and beter than Miro,www.dbg.co.za

Ahh, but they're not cheaper than Scoop

 

[murray654]

Are you not maybe mistaken the ROS version for the lic version? Because no RB with a L3 lic can broadcast any sort of signal for anything to connect to....

Mybe you are running ROS 3.30 or whatever, but it has a L4 lic on....

Sorry, I don't broadcast my private ssid. Is that what you mean? Why would I need to? Just put in the settings manually both ends and the connection works.

I am not confused the version is 4.11 running on RB411 with level 3 license both ends. Level 3 allows you to bridge 2 networks, because there is only 1 client connection. Level 4 is required for more than one client to connect.

Learn more here

I will concede that for this to work your wireless card has to support WDS - not all wireless cards do.
There is apparently another method that does not use WDS but cant find a link to illustrate this.

 

[Pilgrim]

Are you not maybe mistaken the ROS version for the lic version? Because no RB with a L3 lic can broadcast any sort of signal for anything to connect to....

Mybe you are running ROS 3.30 or whatever, but it has a L4 lic on....

No, it is actually possible to link two lic3 routers. Use "Bridge" on one side, and "Station" on other. lic3 does not allow you to run "AP Bridge", and that is what you need for point to mulitpoint connections. Bridge to Station is a point to point link. I also only found this out recently

 

[Elvis007]

No, it is actually possible to link two lic3 routers. Use "Bridge" on one side, and "Station" on other. lic3 does not allow you to run "AP Bridge", and that is what you need for point to mulitpoint connections. Bridge to Station is a point to point link. I also only found this out recently

Nice, bastards at scoop made me buy one with L4 and one with L3!

 

[savagedavid]

Nice, bastards at scoop made me buy one with L4 and one with L3!

Don't be too hard on them - they probably did not know. If you went back and explained the issue and the equipment is in original packaging they would likely exchange it.

Anyway the Level3 license can definitely be used to connect 2 units together. The correct mode (as mentioned) is bridge mode with (static or dynamis) WDS enabled on one side and station-wds (for a transparent bridge) on the other. Remember to bridge the ether and wlan interfaces on the station side and at least the ether and WDS interface on the AP side (bridge the wlan too just for good measure!)

All the Atheros cards currently supported by MikroTik support WDS mode.

As for licensing no licensing is required for a private network (regardless of whether internet or data is moving across it). If you are reselling the internet service than a license is required.