Amazon and ancient tribe face off over Cape Town headquarters

[Thugscub]

Give me.

 

[Anony-mousse]

Just cover them with concrete

 

[yebocan]

...this was where I stopped reading.
Did you forget who entrenched Apartheid since you brought up languages?

before Apartheid, or 1910 became a reality - the English at the Cape, had the opportunity to forgo the racial crap we have today...they had a choice, continue the racial parity path the Cape Government was on , or side with the Boer Republics when it came to matters of race...and especially the coloured question....they could not overcome their collective fear of losing their racial dominance, throwing their lot in with the Boers...read some John X Merriman, last PM of the Cape Government, - you forewarned the lost opportunity to settle the race question - the goodwill that had been build up and would be lost, most likely forever...-For me , the DA at its core is descendances of that miss opportunity, when I talk about typical white middle class suburbia socialisation ,should say English white middle class.... when it comes to race...attitudes, like these (sensitivities of communities about ancestral land, get trump by profits) form part of my perspective...just old ****, coming back again and again...manifesting in different forms...

 

[yebocan]

Amazon very much picked it.

They had plenty of options and had it highlighted that this would be a problem and still chose to forge ahead because...AMERICA **** yeah!

That being said this was a Golf Course before without an issue for many years and only became and issue because Amazon was involved.

what a difference it makes living under a democratic depensation , than one where the colour of your skin determines your right to have a seat/say at any table...

 

[SauRoNZA]

what a difference it makes living under a democratic depensation , than one where the colour of your skin determines your right to have a seat/say at any table...

Not seeing your point.

It’s a money grab, nothing less and nothing more.

Nothing to do with colours or democracy.

 

[now05ster]

That title. Lol.

 

[yebocan]

Not seeing your point.

It’s a money grab, nothing less and nothing more.

Nothing to do with colours or democracy.

myopia does that...only seeing and focusing on the issues' current manifestation , / seeing things in isolation zooming out, you start seeing how the past, feeds into the present and how the present feeds into the future...around and around the merry-go-round goes, each iteration try to bring conclusion to the original event.... with less hassle and effort could have come to amicable agreement/partnership with the grouping...were no lesson learned during the shitfest that was the Princess Vlei mess.

 

[Sapphiron]

Considering there's a **** ton of vacant land everywhere wtf didn't they pick unsacred ground from the beginning?

It only became sacred when money got involved

 

[OhYeah84]

before Apartheid, or 1910 became a reality - the English at the Cape, had the opportunity to forgo the racial crap we have today...they had a choice, continue the racial parity path the Cape Government was on , or side with the Boer Republics when it came to matters of race...and especially the coloured question....they could not overcome their collective fear of losing their racial dominance, throwing their lot in with the Boers...read some John X Merriman, last PM of the Cape Government, - you forewarned the lost opportunity to settle the race question - the goodwill that had been build up and would be lost, most likely forever...-For me , the DA at its core is descendances of that miss opportunity, when I talk about typical white middle class suburbia socialisation ,should say English white middle class.... when it comes to race...attitudes, like these (sensitivities of communities about ancestral land, get trump by profits) form part of my perspective...just old ****, coming back again and again...manifesting in different forms...

TL;DR. The English did start something and pulled out. The NP had the opportunity to turn things around. They didn't. That's a fact and they entrenched apartheid. Call it like you see it.

 

[airborne]

what a difference it makes living under a democratic depensation , than one where the colour of your skin determines your right to have a seat/say at any table...

But it is a money grab, fair and square.
If the complainants had been fighting for this land or access to it for years and for the reasons they claim then different story but unfortunately the record does not show that.

 

[yebocan]

But it is a money grab, fair and square.
If the complainants had been fighting for this land or access to it for years and for the reasons they claim then different story but unfortunately the record does not show that.

ok, from some's perspective it is about money...if so, the developers should have learned around the ****fest that Princess Vlei mess ... would not even gotten to the courts, and if it did, they would have engaged the claimants from start....highlighting the regard they had to their claims +, would have shorten this little drama to a hour special, rather the full season show we see playing out.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Dunno why they care about a tiny piece of swamp land when they can claim about half of Africa.

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Khoisan are not Bantu...

 

[Cosmik Debris]

what a difference it makes living under a democratic depensation , than one where the colour of your skin determines your right to have a seat/say at any table...

It does? What seat do whites get at the BEE, AA and EE bargaining table?

 

[Pegasus]

Khoisan are not Bantu...

Khoisan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Against the traditional interpretation that finds a common origin for the Khoi and San, other evidence has suggested that the ancestors of the Khoi peoples are relatively recent pre-Bantu agricultural immigrants to southern Africa who abandoned agriculture as the climate dried and either joined the San as hunter-gatherers or retained pastoralism.[19]

 

[Cosmik Debris]

ok, from some's perspective it is about money...if so, the developers should have learned around the ****fest that Princess Vlei mess ... would not even gotten to the courts, and if it did, they would have engaged the claimants from start....highlighting the regard they had to their claims +, would have shorten this little drama to a hour special, rather the full season show we see playing out.

Jenkins is self appointed as the High Commissioner of the Goringhaicona. He doesn't even have a list of which people are Goringhaicona.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Khoisan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Nope:

Professor Daniel Reich of Harvard University recently published a properly researched paper into the genealogy of races and peoples and he came to a conclusion which is generally accepted by historians and anthropologists all over the world.

According to this study there was a huge migration of people from Africa about 60 000- 65000 years ago. On their way north, these people met and mixed with the Neanderthal people around the Mediterranean. This Neanderthal gene enabled prof Reich to determine the genealogical links between groups of people. He discovered the gene in the DNA of the western European people of Spain, Sardinia, Corsica, Italy, French Provence and Portugal. The same gene he discovered in the Khoisan descendants, BUT NOT in the black Southern African. Which means that the distant ancestor of both the Khoisan and the European was here thousands of years before any black person migrated south.

Professor Reich further argues that a second migration from Europe southwards, carrying the Neanderthal-gene, took place around 3000 years ago and a final injection of European genes into the Khoisan happened roundabout 900-1800 years ago, hundreds of years before the first recorded contact between Europeans and black Africans.

SOURCE: Newscientist.com
Catharine Brahic
“Humanity’s forgotten return to Africa revealed in DNA”

 

[yebocan]

It does? What seat do whites get at the BEE, AA and EE bargaining table?

en hier kom die ou oom met sy BEE, AA en EE Venterjie trailer vol, the hurt of the white man...I am not discussing the emotive, just historical facts...BEE, AA en EE is a way of undoing the past, which clearly is not and will not work...it was a good idea on paper but in reality, well we can all see where it has taken us - to truly change the face of capital in South Africa, a new approach needs to be found...but with such intrenched thinking and interests from both sides, there is little room for new ideas to be entertained or explored.

 

[yebocan]

Jenkins is self appointed as the High Commissioner of the Goringhaicona. He doesn't even have a list of which people are Goringhaicona.

don't get trapped into the emotive, look at the facts... clearly a hurt community, what would have been the best way for the developers to navigate their issues/concerns....nett result would have been, a community that has been appeased without breaking the bank, less energy/money , maybe a pound or some site of remembrance,...and everyone would have been happy. Not everything as to turn in a ****fest of them vs us.

 

[Quicks]

Amazon forgot to pay the African hand shake!

 

[Cosmik Debris]

en hier kom die ou oom met sy BEE, AA en EE Venterjie trailer vol, the hurt of the white man...I am not discussing the emotive, just historical facts...BEE, AA en EE is a way of undoing the past, which clearly is not and will not work...it was a good idea on paper but in reality, well we can all see where it has taken us - to truly change the face of capital in South Africa, a new approach needs to be found...but with such intrenched thinking and interests from both sides, there is little room for new ideas to be entertained or explored.

Not me with the BEE. AA and EE Ventertjie trailer. Have a chat with the ANC. It's theirs that they refuse to unhook.