Amazon cancels plans to build New York headquarters

[access]

great, so we should start reading satire sites as news

 

[rietrot]

empty promises of revenue.

Really? Even if there is no direct tax revenue from Amazon itself, all the indirect revenue from jobs and economic activity surrounding it is huge.

 

[w1z4rd]

Its it worth 7 billion in tax cut incentives? cause thats what some people were offering. You get very little revenue for the city itself. Most of the profits will end up in an offshore account in a tax haven.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Amazon are not at fault here. There is a demand for their headquarters, and they are doing what any company would do (and should). They are leveraging the demand for their presence. Having said that however, their presence will still have a net positive impact on the area in which they will operate.

Rent is also going to become ever more expensive as populations become more wealthy. Rejecting progress is really dumb founding to me.

They can leverage it elsewhere as far as I'm concerned. I don't see why individual companies ought to get special treatment just because of their size, and I think tolerating that sort of behaviour is a foot shooting exercise in the long run.

 

[Emjay]

They can leverage it elsewhere as far as I'm concerned. I don't see why individual companies ought to get special treatment just because of their size, and I think tolerating that sort of behaviour is a foot shooting exercise in the long run.

So you reject a government using incentives to lure investment into an area? Would you reject the South African government luring jobs and infrastructure into SA because they get some tax incentives?

 

[w1z4rd]

So you reject a government using incentives to lure investment into an area? Would you reject the South African government luring jobs and infrastructure into SA because they get some tax incentives?

You know he said one thing, and you said another, and then you pretended he said it?

 

[Emjay]

You know he said one thing, and you said another, and then you pretended he said it?

It's the same concept.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

So you reject a government using incentives to lure investment into an area? Would you reject the South African government luring jobs and infrastructure into SA because they get some tax incentives?

No, a government is free to use incentives to encourage business so long as those incentives are applied according to the law of general application instead of on a piecemeal case by case basis. In the latter case all you will get is a bunch of corporations incessantly lobbying cities all over the state/country/whatever for the best deal, pitting regions against one another to the detriment of everyone except for the multinational megacorps making ****tons of money.

 

[rietrot]

Its it worth 7 billion in tax cut incentives? cause thats what some people were offering. You get very little revenue for the city itself. Most of the profits will end up in an offshore account in a tax haven.

I didn't know all of the 25000 employees and all of the millions of shareholders all bank in Panama.

You do realise this is a publicly listed company, right? Even you can buy shares and share in that profit. It is distributed to almost every person around the globe with a pension plan.

You have no idea what you're talking about, you are just repeating marxist propaganda. "Meh rich people bad".

 

[rietrot]

You know he said one thing, and you said another, and then you pretended he said it?

No it's the same thing.

 

[Emjay]

No, a government is free to use incentives to encourage business so long as those incentives are applied according to the law of general application instead of on a piecemeal case by case basis. In the latter case all you will get is a bunch of corporations incessantly lobbying cities all over the state/country/whatever for the best deal, pitting regions against one another to the detriment of everyone except for the multinational megacorps making ****tons of money.

Then maybe the politicians should be held accountable for creating the demand.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Then maybe the politicians should be held accountable for creating the demand.

I'd be down with that, in theory.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Lol that's a comedy show. I hope you're not using it to try and make a point that economic development is bad.

Hahahaha....that comment just defines how uninformed you are.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

great, so we should start reading satire sites as news

"Satire site"....?

 

[access]

"Satire site"....?

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver is an American late-night talk and news satire television program hosted by comedian John Oliver.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Lol that's a comedy show. I hope you're not using it to try and make a point that economic development is bad.

Also:

The fact that JO is funny and makes snarky comments, does not make it a comedy show.

All the information is based on well researched facts and there are lots of interviews with the researchers, politicians etc.

Maybe watch this one episode and learn something.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

It is not a "site" first and foremost.

Do you even understand the concept of "satire"?

The use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Also:

The fact that JO is funny and makes snarky comments, does not make it a comedy show.

All the information is based on well researched facts and there are lots of interviews with the researchers, politicians etc.

Maybe watch this one episode and learn something.

 

[access]

It is not a "site" first and foremost.

Do you even understand the concept of "satire"?

The use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.

haha and you ignore the exaggeration part.

so a satire news tv show is ok, but not a satire news site. ok.

its on tv! it must be true!

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

haha and you ignore the exaggeration part.

so a satire news tv show is ok, but not a satire news site. ok.

its on tv! it must be true!

And you ignore the definition of satire...

If a fact is mentioned in a "funny way", does it make it less of a fact?