Amplifi HD Router on Vox/Vumatel

[jchetty]

Hi All,

Does anyone use an Amplifi HD router on Vox/Fibrehoods(Vumatel)? I currently have the Vox supplied Zyxel router connected to the Vumatel CPE. It is unstable and slow and I want to replace it with the Amplifi HD mesh router.

Can I connect the new router to the Vumatel CPE or do I need to connect it to the Zyxel router? I want to get rid of the Zyxel router completely. The Amplifi user guide says to connect it to your existing modem, is the CPE a "modem"?

Any help/experiences would be very appreciated.

J

 

[websquadza]

You can just connect it directly to the CPE and bypass the Zyxel altogether.
The Amplifi has a built in router, so simply connect a quality LAN cable between the CPE and your router's WAN port. Are you on Vumatel's Active (trenched - Raycore CPE) or GPON (Aerial - Huawei or ZNT CPE) network?
If you're on Active, reboot the CPE, plug in the Amplifi and your router should get an IP from the network. If you don't, your ISP's support should be able to get this sorted out quickly enough.
If you're on GPON, you may need to configure PPPoE in the router's settings - make sure you have these on hand before trying to connect, there's nothing more frustrating than waiting for these.

 

[Enzo Matrix]

You can just connect it directly to the CPE and bypass the Zyxel altogether.
The Amplifi has a built in router, so simply connect a quality LAN cable between the CPE and your router's WAN port. Are you on Vumatel's Active (trenched - Raycore CPE) or GPON (Aerial - Huawei or ZNT CPE) network?
If you're on Active, reboot the CPE, plug in the Amplifi and your router should get an IP from the network. If you don't, your ISP's support should be able to get this sorted out quickly enough.
If you're on GPON, you may need to configure PPPoE in the router's settings - make sure you have these on hand before trying to connect, there's nothing more frustrating than waiting for these.

You still need a modem between the cpe and the amplifi. Your advice is completely wrong unless ive completely misunderstood how fibre works.

The amplifi does not do any isp authentication. Cpe>modem(isp provided router) > amplifi.

Disable wifi on the isp provided crap modem/router

 

[websquadza]

You still need a modem between the cpe and the amplifi. Your advice is completely wrong unless ive completely misunderstood how fibre works.

The amplifi does not do any isp authentication. Cpe>modem(isp provided router) > amplifi.

Disable wifi on the isp provided crap modem/router

The Amplifi has a built in WAN port and is a router, so it will do DHCP/PPPoE directly from the unit itself.
Taken from the Amplifi user manual:
"The Internet screen for the Router allows you to access internet connection settings, including service type: DHCP, Static IP, or PPPoE. Tap to save your changes."

The CPE is there to convert fibre to ethernet as well as ensure you're on the correct ISP's network. Then a router (any, you don't need to use the ISP's one and as long as it has a WAN interface) will connect one of two ways; On Vumatel's Active network, the device will receive a public IP using DHCP. Zero config needed. On almost every other network - including Vumatel GPON, the router will need to authenticate using PPPoE.

 

[Enzo Matrix]

The Amplifi has a built in WAN port and is a router, so it will do DHCP/PPPoE directly from the unit itself.
Taken from the Amplifi user manual:
"The Internet screen for the Router allows you to access internet connection settings, including service type: DHCP, Static IP, or PPPoE. Tap to save your changes."

The CPE is there to convert fibre to ethernet as well as ensure you're on the correct ISP's network. Then a router (any, you don't need to use the ISP's one and as long as it has a WAN interface) will connect one of two ways; On Vumatel's Active network, the device will receive a public IP using DHCP. Zero config needed. On almost every other network - including Vumatel GPON, the router will need to authenticate using PPPoE.

I stand corrected then. I will try tonight and revert back...

 

[websquadza]

I stand corrected then. I will try tonight and revert back...

Thanks, looking forward to the feedback.

If you're on active ethernet, just remember that DHCP leases are in play and your device may not get an IP immediately. Rebooting the CPE helps that along. Or a simple call to your ISP if it's taking too long. Or if you're really desperate, just set the MAC address on the WAN interface on your Amplifi to that of your ISP's router.

 

[Enzo Matrix]

Thanks, looking forward to the feedback.

If you're on active ethernet, just remember that DHCP leases are in play and your device may not get an IP immediately. Rebooting the CPE helps that along. Or a simple call to your ISP if it's taking too long. Or if you're really desperate, just set the MAC address on the WAN interface on your Amplifi to that of your ISP's router.

Just tested and it works. No isp router is needed. Very interesting. Thx for that.

Cpe into amplifi works. Im on vumatel trenched and cool ideas

 

[jchetty]

Thanks, I am on the fibrehoods overhead line. The current router is using PPPoE authentication so guess I have to do the same. Will order the router tonight!

 

[Enzo Matrix]

Thanks, I am on the fibrehoods overhead line. The current router is using PPPoE authentication so guess I have to do the same. Will order the router tonight!

Its a fantastic device. Now even better lol.

Just check. There is new one. Seems like a lite version. Amplifi instant its called

 

[websquadza]

Just tested and it works. No isp router is needed. Very interesting. Thx for that.

Cpe into amplifi works

Glad to hear you got it sorted! And you've gotten rid of a nasty double NAT

 

[Enzo Matrix]

Glad to hear you got it sorted! And you've gotten rid of a nasty double NAT

Welllllll

Im gonna still use the old router. Want to wire another amplifi to the bedroom and all the ethernets on the current one are taken. But still very good to know!

 

[websquadza]

Welllllll

Im gonna still use the old router. Want to wire another amplifi to the bedroom and all the ethernets on the current one are taken. But still very good to know!

If you can disable the routing (don't use the wan port), WiFi and DHCP functionality on your router, this is a plan (it will act like a switch). Else I'd say get hold of a good cheap 1 Gbps 8 port switch - the Tenda and DLink ones are great for home use. The problem with the routers ISPs send out is they're rigid and simple in functionality - which means they get very confused and cause terrible headaches when they're not being the way the manufacturer wanted them to.

 

[Enzo Matrix]

If you can disable the routing (don't use the wan port), WiFi and DHCP functionality on your router, this is a plan (it will act like a switch). Else I'd say get hold of a good cheap 1 Gbps 8 port switch - the Tenda and DLink ones are great for home use. The problem with the routers ISPs send out is they're rigid and simple in functionality - which means they get very confused and cause terrible headaches when they're not being the way the manufacturer wanted them to.

Thx. Will look at a switch option also...

 

[jchetty]

Last thing, what is a quality lan cable? Thought they were all the same.

 

[websquadza]

Last thing, what is a quality lan cable? Thought they were all the same.

The cheaper WiFi routers come with a 4 core Cat5 cable. Just make sure you avoid that. Any CAT6 rated cable is a good bet. You don't need to spend on ridiculously priced blister pack cables either -your local IT shop should have something in between. If your Amplifi came with a LAN cable, chances are they supplied a quality one.

 

[jchetty]

The cheaper WiFi routers come with a 4 core Cat5 cable. Just make sure you avoid that. Any CAT6 rated cable is a good bet. You don't need to spend on ridiculously priced blister pack cables either -your local IT shop should have something in between. If your Amplifi came with a LAN cable, chances are they supplied a quality one.

Thanks again

 

[nova69]

Im using a amplifi at home with cisp.The cable supplied is cat5e

 

[HeftyCrab]

Im using a amplifi at home with cisp.The cable supplied is cat5e

This should really be fine, along as the cable hasn't been damaged/bent, etc. Hell I've got like a 14 year old LAN cable that I still use for testing, and it still works fine as I've looked after it.