ANC calls on law enforcement agencies to 'act' over Bosasa revelations

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Called it...
These are decades old cases against Bosasa and correctional services, with hard evidence by the SIU and Hawks: https://www.news24.com/Archives/City-Press/The-SIUs-case-against-Linda-Mti-20150429

The SIU is of the view that the house … was built for commissioner Mti. This can be gathered from the fact that the plans were prepared for commissioner Mti and that he has taken up occupation of the dwelling … The fact that (the builder) was previously engaged by Bosasa between 2004 and 2007, and was paid approximately R30 million during this period for construction work, leads the SIU to conclude that the construction of this house was probably funded by Bosasa.
The Zondo commission will take a lot longer to investigate and come to court.
 

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No you did not, unless Linda Mti was a Bosasa employee?
The point is that former Police Commissioner Linda Mti is not a well-connected member of the ANC, and is 'disposable' as far as the upcoming election is concerned. I did a search on his name, and there are no recent news reports (other than Bosasa). I can't even find when he stepped down, probably 2009: https://mg.co.za/article/2009-11-20-prisons-graft-bosasas-empire-of-influence

Former correctional services chief Linda Mti is a Teflon man. Though he has been involved in numerous controversies and charges, he has never been censured, writes Adriaan Basson.

Despite being arrested for drunk driving on at least three occasions and being convicted twice, he still heads security for the 2010 World Cup local organising committee (LOC) with no hint of any action against him.
P.S. Its worth reading how much was publicly known in 2009, yet nothing was done until today (2019).
 

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The point is that former Police Commissioner Linda Mti is not a well-connected member of the ANC,
P.S. Its worth reading how much was publicly known in 2009, yet nothing was done until today (2019).
That begs the question - how did he escape from being arrested all these years?

Found this old article on him.
https://www.gov.za/correctional-services-commends-l-mti

"Mr Mti was redeployed from the National Intelligence Co-ordinating Committee
(NICOC) in 2001 to help stamp out fraud and corruption and steer the Department
embedded in the prisons culture to a dynamic government agency for correcting
offending behaviour, rehabilitation and social re-integration."
 
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That begs the question - how did he escape from being arrested all these years?
The NPA (Jiba etc) were bought off by Bosasa. That is one of the key points of the Zondo Commission. They 'protected' Mti and all the others, who could have easily blown the whistle if things became 'unpleasant'...

Edit: Sometimes you need a diagram to join the dots, which Zapiro has helpfully provided: https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/cartoon/step-one/
 

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The NPA (Jiba etc) were bought off by Bosasa. That is one of the key points of the Zondo Commission. They 'protected' Mti and all the others, who could have easily blown the whistle if things became 'unpleasant'...

Edit: Sometimes you need a diagram to join the dots, which Zapiro has helpfully provided: https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/cartoon/step-one/
True but if you read a bit, you will find that Mti was a commander with the ANC’s military wing Umkhonto we Sizwe - does that ring a bell as to how has to be well connected member in certain ANC structures? Just because someone is low profile doesn't mean they are not well connected. Low profile is for a reason. In my opinion, this all connects to Zupta patronage at the top.
 

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True but if you read a bit, you will find that Mti was a commander with the ANC’s military wing Umkhonto we Sizwe - does that ring a bell as to how has to be well connected member in certain ANC structures? Just because someone is low profile doesn't mean they are not well connected. Low profile is for a reason. In my opinion, this all connects to Zupta patronage at the top.
Good points, my search did not get that far, and I confused profile with connectedness.

Patronage can be both top-down and bottom-up, and palms need to be greased in both directions. Protective cover needs to be provided when law-enforcement and investigative journalists come sniffing. It is not clear how 'loyal' Mti and others are, but both carrot and stick can be used to ensure compliance. Gillingham is probably a softer target.
 

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The hint about one being arrested in PE, hints towards it maybe being a Watson?
Some clarification: https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/...rges-bringing-down-the-bosasa-empire-20190206

While the name of former correctional services commissioner Linda Mti appeared on a 66-page draft charge sheet seen by News24, he was not among those in the dock on Wednesday.

News24 understands that Mti was arrested in the Eastern Cape and that he was expected to be taken to Pretoria to appear along with his co-accused at their next court date.
2 of the accused are ex-Bosasa and paid bribes. Each testified at the Zondo State Capture Commission. The other 2 are Correctional Services executives who received bribes. Plus 3 corporate entities, Bosasa and 2 subsidiaries.

Former correctional services chief financial officer Patrick Gillingham, former Bosasa COO Angelo Agrizzi and former Bosasa chief financial officer Andries van Tonder briefly appeared in the Pretoria Specialised Commercial Crimes Court on Wednesday.
I do not know the identity of the one who is out of the country. Ex-Bosasa, but almost certainly not Watson.
 

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So you call someone a name you get 3 years behind bars.

You kick a woman lying in the road and you get 12 months suspended.

You steal millions of taxpayers' money, this lot can look forward to community service with medical parole.
 

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I do not know the identity of the one who is out of the country. Ex-Bosasa, but almost certainly not Watson.
haha - you have been posting so much stuff, you forgot. I came to know it is likely to be Danny Mansell because of your this post. :thumbsup:
Not Mr Gavin, more likely the Bosasa executive named by Agrizzi who left the country. See other thread, Danny Mansell. See: https://mybroadband.co.za/forum/thr...he-whistle-on-corruption.971491/post-22891182
 

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haha - you have been posting so much stuff, you forgot. I came to know it is likely to be Danny Mansell because of your this post. :thumbsup:
Yeah, I though about that post, and it could be him, but unlikely since the US won't extradite easily. To follow this story you need a very good list of names (or a Wikipedia entry!) Journalists must have a database to keep track of all this stuff...

Edit: OK, Danny Mansell was a co-founder of Bosasa, so he must be deeply implicated: https://mg.co.za/article/2019-01-30-danny-mansell-exiled-to-cover-up-graft-van-tonder

Mansell co-founded Bosasa with Watson but after a falling out between the two, Mansell sold his shares to his colleague. Mansell later became a consultant for Bosasa and was intimately involved in the firm’s scheme to secure lucrative tenders from the department of correctional services.
That's just newspaper allegations. Not sure what the SIU has on him.

Edit: News24 seems to have more specifics on the charges: https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/...rges-bringing-down-the-bosasa-empire-20190206

Accused Two: Patrick Gillingham

- One count of contravening the Prevention and Combating of Corrupt Activities Act in respect of gifts he accepted from Bosasa between April 2004 and April 2007 in exchange for colluding with Agrizzi and Bosasa's Danny Mansell to draft and compile bid specifications which were then used to award the tenders to Bosasa.
There are plenty of others who are incriminated at Bosasa, but those cases still remain to be investigated: https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/...do-inquiry-hears-from-bosasa-bag-man-20190205

Greg John Lawrence took the witness stand for a brief spell before lunch, but during his testimony three damning videos were shown, which he took, of cash being dropped off at Bosasa's Krugersdorp head office.

The videos show Bosasa finance department employee Jacques van Zyl collecting a box from Lawrence and his associate, known only as Jason. He testified that the box was filled with cash and videos of other occasions showed bundles of R100 notes in another box.
 
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The latest News24 story gives a good overview, and confirms much of what I have been describing about the timing of the arrests, and the gathering of testimony to go after the big-fish: https://www.news24.com/Analysis/the...ing-and-a-strategy-to-slay-the-beast-20190206

Edit: The key person at the NPA is not the new NDPP (yet), but someone with a real track record:

Veteran commercial crimes prosecutor Peter Serunye led the team that brought former North West ANC leader John Block to justice for corruption.
 
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And: https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/anc-accepted-bosasa-millions-for-years-20190219

Former ANC treasurer general Zweli Mkhize has admitted that the party accepted donations from Bosasa despite public allegations of corruption, including paying bribes for tenders shrouding the Krugersdorp-based firm.

Mkhize made the admission after being questioned about a 2014 photograph snapped at ANC headquarters, Luthuli House, that shows a Bosasa delegation including Bosasa CEO Gavin Watson and chairperson Joe Gumede with Mkhize.
 

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Seems in 2019 the election 'war-room' may not be available: https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/...oom-proudly-brought-to-you-by-bosasa-20190227

The video of the war room, showing 2014 ANC elections posters as screensavers on the computers, provides further evidence that the ANC's relationship with Bosasa was far closer than the party is willing to admit.

At the time of writing ANC national spokesperson Dakota Legoete, had not responded to detailed questions over the Bosasa "war room", including questions over who managed the volunteers from the ANC, why Bosasa carried the costs for the party and why the ANC did not have infrastructure of this sort already and permanently in place.
 
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