ANC, listen up, We are gatvol!

Frankie

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We can only hope that they lose the 2/3 majority in the next election, and that they see how wrong it would be to have the criminal AIDS shower boy Zuma as president.

We are gatvol!

Survey finds South Africans are plunging into despair. The confidence South Africans have in their future, the economy and the government has crashed since the last election in 2004.

They think the government has made a mess of the economy, the fight against crime, healthcare and job creation.

He said the national mood of uncertainty made the country vulnerable to political extremism and warned that election rhetoric should be toned down to help stabilise the country.

“By constantly upping the ante in terms of the extremity of the language that forms part of their rhetoric, politicians may be playing a dangerous game in a society that is already highly strung as a result of the material insecurity of its citizens,” he said. “Unrealistic promises may create expectations that will ultimately end up in further disillusion and fuelled frustration.”

The findings include:

ýMore than a third of blacks and more than half of whites no longer feel confident about a future of racial harmony. In 2005, nine out of 10 blacks and three out of four whites thought reconciliation would work;

ýNot even four out of 10 South Africans think their economic circumstances will improve in the next two years. That is down from 60% just two years ago;

ýOnly one in three believe their personal security will get better by 2010. Among blacks, that optimism is down from 65% in 2004 to less than 40% who now think the police have a handle on crime;

ýOnly 43% of all South Africans think the country is “heading in the right direction”, down from 66% two years ago. Just half of blacks and 17% of whites believe this. Two years ago, more than 70% of blacks and nearly half of whites thought the country was moving the right way;

ýApproval of the way the economy has been managed has slumped from 71% in 2006 to just 34% this year; and

ýFewer than half of all South Africans — down from two-thirds in 2004 — believe they can trust the country’s leaders to “do what is right”.
 

stoke

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Yet another "survey" ... and this one does not even list the size of the survey participation.
Pfffft!
 

Surv0

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I dont believe any sa surveys, they are wrong time and time again.
 

KillerX

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People are "gatvol", yet I would bet anything ANC receives 65% ++ of the votes in the next election.
 

rwenzori

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People are "gatvol", yet I would bet anything ANC receives 65% ++ of the votes in the next election.

That sounds correct, sadly.

If Lancelot had not been included, the results would have been more negative! ;)
<just kidding about his being included>
 

Valis

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...to less than 40% who now think the police have a handle on crime

Good grief! Almost 40% still think the police have a handle on crime? What country do these people live in, as it is obviously not South Africa...
 

Friggs

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Good grief! Almost 40% still think the police have a handle on crime? What country do these people live in, as it is obviously not South Africa...

That was my first thought as well, where do these people live? How can anyone believe the cops have a handle on crime in SA....
 

Boodles

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Just like mad Bob - people will vote ANC no matter happens.
 

capetownguy

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whats wrong with our economy? the US and Germany are in a recession!
the credit act in RSA protected tons of people.

oh and when people are gatvol, they generally don't vote. they dont vote for other parties.
 

daveza

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Good grief! Almost 40% still think the police have a handle on crime? What country do these people live in, as it is obviously not South Africa...

I think this 40% are those citizens currently living in jail.
 

metalcore

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Its so easy to blame a political party, but the problems come from our society and the world as a whole. We are no where near what Zim is and we should realise that and be a little more happy.

Racial harmony is defnitelly not where it should be and this is because racism still exists and is very much alive and well. The topic of racism is something noone wants to touch and so things boil away behind the scenes. I have friends who are racist as ever and whenever we talk they let rip about how they hate everyone who isnt white. I am non white too btw, but somehow I am ok to them.

Then during the day they mix with non whites and they say "well this one guy I work with is different even though he is black he doesnt think like other blacks etc etc" I just talk along with them and laugh and agree because I am know that when I tell them I don't agree with them then it will turn into long lectures and fights. So I just "stem saam" as someone once put it, and I try to avoid these people if they don't want to talk about something else.

Too me the whole racial thing has always been stupid because when ever people stereo type other people, they don't want to hear or believe when they see anomalies or people of their own race behaving worse than the race they don't like. Racial stereotyping is like a conspiracy... it seems plausible but at the end of the day its all bull****.

Oh and btw the whole friggin world is in a recession, or is that the governments fault too. The real problem facing South Africa is that we all get paid to little and are being milked in general.

I dont like to touch politics or religion in conversation but just wanted to add this bit.
 
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daveza

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The ANC offered us a rainbow nation where race wouldn't exist.

What a bloody great idea.

Then someone invented BEE and AA.
 

capetownguy

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The ANC offered us a rainbow nation where race wouldn't exist.

What a bloody great idea.

Then someone invented BEE and AA.

BEE and AA are in principle not poor ideas. The implementation though has been below average with only a few benefiting. It's not ridiculous to expect some policy to spread economic benefits when 80% of the population has been neglected by law for decades. A post apartheid "equal footing" would never be equal.

The DA has a great opportunity for all, non-racial policy, which I support, but the extreme neglect and nature of apartheid does warrant some policy to include the overwhelming majority of the population in the economy.

Given that e.g. all workers have the same skill I don't think its ridiculous given our demographic to expect the majority of those workers to be non-white. Unfortunately unskilled workers have been placed in certain positions because of their race.
 

daveza

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I don't have a major problem with the concept of the ' previously disadvantaged ', except where the government decided that the only ones disadvantaged were black.

Don't let me get started on whether I am an African....
 
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