ANC looking at retrenching 50% of its staff members

Solarion

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I remember on 702 back in around 2001 this economist guest speaker talking about everything the ANC may do, the good times, the rampant corruption, the economy near collapsing, opposition parties taking advantage of the scandals and then this where they would eventually face cross roads to implement a major shake up and then the possible splits within the party. Either that or SA would face economic collapse. Something had to give.

He knew this because it has all been done before with liberation parties and revolutionary regime changes. It's history on a rinse and repeat.

All in all the atmosphere within ANC halls is about to get very sour. Just wish I could remember that speakers name. 702 may have it on Archive.
 
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Now you've done it. The ANC/EFF supporters will be here to call you an apartheid apologist and attribute many qualities to you such as NP supporter, oppressor, white supremacist, racist, privileged, scientific racism, systemic racism and several more.

Denying anything will prove you are guilty of the accusation, unrepentant and deserving of attending classes on critical race theory or a re-education camp.
Don't forget the next step: white victimhood and pity party.

Then kaksucker will correct your grammar and spelling and dawie will start quoting argument laws...
 

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Fun times ahead 50% of them will fight to the bitter end, theirs nothing better than a free lunch and it is being taken away.
There isn't much fighting with retrenchment, unless the employer fluffs the process and at most that would require starting the process afresh. They probably don't have the numbers and union influence behind them, SABC staff were much stronger in that regard but it still happened.
 

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Don't joke about this. Someone just told me yesterday to go look for a news article, which he saw a heading on some news app - something about cigarettes and smoking the last while you can. Could not find any article as yet and not sure if it relates to a possible upcoming ban again.
its no joking matter. This is why we are still in a state of disaster. The facts are that the ANC doesn’t care about anything but money and control. It’s why we have no vaccines rolling to our people, and we have an embarrassment in leadership blaming the west for not donating theirs. The smoking ban, and NDZ’s unfortunate friends list, where there’s smoke there’s fire. This government has looted trillions, and will continue to. Watch how a ‘third wave’ will be announced, and a ‘family meeting’ full of sanctimonious hot air will proceed, and of course alcohol ban.
How else could it work? With the spotlight on corruption, how could the normal ‘benefactor’ process work?
 

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its no joking matter. This is why we are still in a state of disaster. The facts are that the ANC doesn’t care about anything but money and control. It’s why we have no vaccines rolling to our people, and we have an embarrassment in leadership blaming the west for not donating theirs. The smoking ban, and NDZ’s unfortunate friends list, where there’s smoke there’s fire. This government has looted trillions, and will continue to. Watch how a ‘third wave’ will be announced, and a ‘family meeting’ full of sanctimonious hot air will proceed, and of course alcohol ban.
How else could it work? With the spotlight on corruption, how could the normal ‘benefactor’ process work?

True. At this point money has dried up for government, this is evident by the many news articles around government finances and declining tax revenue. So, just like Zimbabwe, Venezuela and elsewhere, it is now a matter of power and staying in control. They could not care less about money at this point or dying voters living in poverty.

As for another smoking ban and her friends, I have very bad news for them all. Asking R60-R100 a packet of cigarettes will no longer fly. They will go bankrupt and many smokers will this time around quit smoking. I do not see a lot of people left with jobs or the same income they had back in January 2020. There are very few people left who will be able to afford this. The house of cards will come tumbling down on them all if they do consider another ban.
 

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SA could have been was a power house.

It had a GDP larger than the rest of Africa combined before ANC rule. It is now the third biggest GDP in Africa after Nigeria and Egypt. It used to turn most of it's minerals into products and export them. Now it exports minerals and imports the finished products.

Frightening. But I will be called an apartheid apologist for pointing that out.
Ive never quite understood that mentality.

Ive got no problem with exporting minerals. There may be no more value added by smelting your chrome ores before exporting them, that depends on the price of power etc. Austrialia, Norway and countless other countries have been able to export

As someone has said - working institutions and simply serving the people you are meant to serve are the foundation to everything. Education can only be made to work if the institutions around law and order and tax work. (I dont necessarily think you need government to provide education, most countries do that locally or privately with no big problem -- albeit still funded by tax)
 

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If they could retrench 50% of there voters we might have a new government in place. Just make sure they don't go to the EFF instead of other parties who might actually enact good governance.
 

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If they could retrench 50% of there voters we might have a new government in place. Just make sure they don't go to the EFF instead of other parties who might actually enact good governance.
Keen to hear which party you think could 'enact good governance'?
 

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True. At this point money has dried up for government, this is evident by the many news articles around government finances and declining tax revenue. So, just like Zimbabwe, Venezuela and elsewhere, it is now a matter of power and staying in control. They could not care less about money at this point or dying voters living in poverty.

As for another smoking ban and her friends, I have very bad news for them all. Asking R60-R100 a packet of cigarettes will no longer fly. They will go bankrupt and many smokers will this time around quit smoking. I do not see a lot of people left with jobs or the same income they had back in January 2020. There are very few people left who will be able to afford this. The house of cards will come tumbling down on them all if they do consider another ban.
People won't quit drinking or smoking. Many are dependant on these vices, and in fact, are addicted. Sadly, those who do need these vices, are not able to just 'give it up'. Addiction is a symptom of substance abuse. The reason people use substances is to cover up some form of pain or suffering. In fact, the more down the spiral SA goes, the more people will drink and smoke. Want an example, look at Eastern Europe.
 

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Keen to hear which party you think could 'enact good governance'?
Anything other than the ANC and EFF might be able too. We would only know once they're in power. This isn't a case of "better the devil you know" situation in keeping the ANC in power.
 

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They'll still vote ANC, wont they?

Many who still look affectionately at the party as that same old heroic struggle liberator it was back in the 90's yes. Those days are gone. This is another beast all together. The older generation sadly will likely go to their graves holding onto old ideals and beliefs.
 
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