ANC mayor recommends Durban Harbour should be closed to stop minerals from leaving South Africa

[pinball wizard]

All these obviously preposterous and ridiculous utterances by black politicians lead me to wonder whether there might not be a style of rhetoric in black culture that whites completely miss because they take it literally when it is meant figuratively to make a more tangential point.

Most cultures have modes of speech that should not be parsed in a narrow literal sense, as anyone familiar with literature knows.

I suspect this mayor might simply be using an African idiomatic and rhetorical style while speaking in English. His black audience knows he doesn't literally mean close the port and stop mineral exports, but rather that reconfiguring the ownership structures requires bold action that will displease the few (bourgeoisie) and please the many (proletariat).

It's hyperbolic, figurative, and coded.

For that reason I don't take his statement literally.

Were you dropped on your head as a baby? Or recently?

 

[rietrot]

Okay so we keep the minerals here. Then what? Can you eat gold?

 

[Arthur]

Might be.

Wonder what they then would have in store for us when it comes to EWC, NHI, Appropriations and more, if things like this is meant figuratively...

Those, sadly, are serious policy proposals inspired by that alien European ideology called Marxism-Leninism.

 

[TheChamp]

All these obviously preposterous and ridiculous utterances by black politicians lead me to wonder whether there might not be a style of rhetoric in black culture that whites completely miss because they take it literally when it is meant figuratively to make a more tangential point.

Most cultures have modes of speech that should not be parsed in a narrow literal sense, as anyone familiar with literature knows.

I suspect this mayor might simply be using an African idiomatic and rhetorical style while speaking in English. His black audience knows he doesn't literally mean close the port and stop mineral exports, but perhaps saying that reconfiguring the ownership structures requires bold and even dramatic action that will displease the few (bourgeoisie) and please the many (proletariat).

It's hyperbolic, figurative, and coded.

For that reason I'm not inclined to take his statement literally, because it's not meant that way, but it sure is fun (he thinks to himsel) to see the bourgeoisie get a rise and knot their knickers...

You get us man, you really do, if it wasn't for haters like Mngxitama I would declare you an honorary black man right here and now.

 

[lowriderza]

Okay so we keep the minerals here. Then what? Can you eat gold?

Actually you can eat gold but that's beside the point.

In his infinite wisdom he reckons the manufacturers will be so desperate for the processed minerals, they will invest money in SA to upskill people and create jobs.

Problem number one is to make raw materials usable you need electricity and lots of it.

 

[Arthur]

You get us man, you really do, if it wasn't for haters like Mngxitama I would declare you an honorary black man right here and now.

You are most kind. But I'd politely decline since I am not a black man but rather an avowed and unreconstructed defender of Western Civilisation.

 

[lowriderza]

My general thoughts regarding this matter is that this is a prefect example of politicians being unfit for office, which is not limited to SA. Because he is right about the problem from an ecomics point of view, but his solution is so far off the mark, if he ever gets to pull the trigger he'll shoot himself in the foot.

 

[TheChamp]

My general thoughts regarding this matter is that this is a prefect example of politicians being unfit for office, which is not limited to SA. Because he is right about the problem from an ecomics point of view, but his solution is so far off the mark, if he ever gets to pull the trigger he'll shoot himself in the foot.

He is probably eyeing some position in the ANC and looking to appeal to the KZN gang, this gells in nicely with their radical economic transformation narrative.

 

[lowriderza]

He is probably eyeing some position in the ANC and looking to appeal to the KZN gang, this gells in nicely with their radical economic transformation narrative.

That too. There's so many levels these guys are playing on it's like 6 dimensional chess.

 

[ToxicBunny]

All these obviously preposterous and ridiculous utterances by black politicians lead me to wonder whether there might not be a style of rhetoric in black culture that whites completely miss because they take it literally when it is meant figuratively to make a more tangential point.

Most cultures have modes of speech that should not be parsed in a narrow literal sense, as anyone familiar with literature knows.

I suspect this mayor might simply be using an African idiomatic and rhetorical style while speaking in English. His black audience knows he doesn't literally mean close the port and stop mineral exports, but perhaps saying that reconfiguring the ownership structures requires bold and even dramatic action that will displease the few (bourgeoisie) and please the many (proletariat).

It's hyperbolic, figurative, and coded.

For that reason I'm not inclined to take his statement literally, because it's not meant that way, but it sure is fun (he thinks to himsel) to see the bourgeoisie get a rise and knot their knickers...

You have a point.. And yes we possibly don't understand it... But the bigger issue is the international investors who hear these things... They have less of a chance of grasping the figurative aspect of the language and will take it literally and take their money elsewhere.

 

[Sinbad]

You have a point.. And yes we possibly don't understand it... But the bigger issue is the international investors who hear these things... They have less of a chance of grasping the figurative aspect of the language and will take it literally and take their money elsewhere.

It's problematic. Politicians should say what they mean, so that people will understand what they stand for. This code doesn't benefit anyone, except for allowing the ANC to pull out the ol' "It was taken out of context" excuse.

 

[Jopie Fourie]

It's problematic. Politicians should say what they mean, so that people will understand what they stand for. This code doesn't benefit anyone, except for allowing the ANC to pull out the ol' "It was taken out of context" excuse.

Assume there are substantial fact or truth to @Arthur's comment, and he is right, let's take closing the harbour out of the comment. He still wants to kill trade with the Western world as he does not want to provide minerals to them. What else could he have meant with his statement?

This is the underlying worrying part. China recently confirmed that they will not be investing in SA or provide money like they did before. Who else do these people want to deal with when they snub the West?

 

[Arthur]

Assume there are substantial fact or truth to @Arthur's comment, and he is right, let's take closing the harbour out of the comment. He still wants to kill trade with the Western world as he does not want to provide minerals to them. What else could he have meant with his statement?

This is the underlying worrying part. China recently confirmed that they will not be investing in SA or provide money like they did before. Who else do these people want to deal with when they snub the West?

Yes indeed. I was only making a little semantic observation. Even if it's puffery and hyperbole, it's still loopy lalaland bongo-bongo economics quite inconsistent with reality and justice. And childish.

 

[RedViking]

Cape Town should just rally some international support and become independent. The fantasy that it is a separate country might become a reality.

 

[ɹǝuuᴉM]

All these obviously preposterous and ridiculous utterances by black politicians lead me to wonder whether there might not be a style of rhetoric in black culture that whites completely miss because they take it literally when it is meant figuratively to make a more tangential point.

Most cultures have modes of speech that should not be parsed in a narrow literal sense, as anyone familiar with literature knows.

I suspect this mayor might simply be using an African idiomatic and rhetorical style while speaking in English. His black audience knows he doesn't literally mean close the port and stop mineral exports, but perhaps saying that reconfiguring the ownership structures requires bold and even dramatic action that will displease the few (bourgeoisie) and please the many (proletariat).

It's hyperbolic, figurative, and coded.

For that reason I'm not inclined to take his statement literally, because it's not meant that way, but it sure is fun (he thinks to himsel) to see the bourgeoisie get a rise and knot their knickers...

You are grasping on straws... I rather go with the map.

 

[TysonRoux]

“Can’t stop the racist western lightning so now we going to stop the racist economical trade”

I suspect hearing about "wit blitz" triggered them.

 

[Hemi300c]

Dumd fvcking POS

 

[Kosmik]

This is the calibre of living brain donor that runs this country. No wonder we're fukked.

Fresh and unused material though.

 

[thestaggy]

Please tell me he doesn't have children. This sort of mental deficiency should not be passed on to future generations.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

go visit Zim

see how isolationism and rampant land grabs helped build the country into the African pride it is now.