ANC ordered to pay KZN company R102 million after three years of dodging

ANC ordered to pay KZN company R102 million after three years of dodging

https://www.news24.com/news24/politics/political-parties/anc-ordered-to-pay-kzn-company-r102-million-after-three-years-of-dodging-20231124 Time to say "Eish" The ANC has again failed to convince the court that it is not liable for a R102 million debt owed to a KwaZulu-Natal branding company...
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Its a bit difficult to inject the movement with stolen monies if you have to declare all donations and money coming in......
 
I think the ANC just got taught a very expensive lesson that it's not so fun to liberally hand out contracts when you have to use your own money and not the public's tax money.
 
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geezer said:
I think the ANC just got taught a very expensive lesson that it's not so fun to liberally hand out contracts when you have to use your own money and not the public's tax money.
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I'd put very good money on this being the way it played out... guys who hand our government tenders where given the responsibility for the ANC stuff, and just proceeded as they always have and it fscked them hard.

Its been glorious to watch in all honesty.
 
Do they even have the money to pay for this? Also, would love to know what R102 Million in election materials buys you...
 
6spdmanual said:

ANC ordered to pay KZN company R102 million after three years of dodging

https://www.news24.com/news24/politics/political-parties/anc-ordered-to-pay-kzn-company-r102-million-after-three-years-of-dodging-20231124 Time to say "Eish" The ANC has again failed to convince the court that it is not liable for a R102 million debt owed to a KwaZulu-Natal branding company...
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So, have they paid, or just wiped their stinky rear ends with the court papers?
 
Cray said:
Do they even have the money to pay for this? Also, would love to know what R102 Million in election materials buys you...
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[6] The version of Ezulweni was deposed to by Ramdas. In anticipation of the meeting of 20 February, he sent Nkholise a quote dated 11 February reflecting the prices of items which could be supplied. The first item was titled ‘Banners’. These were described as ‘230 cm x 100 cm PVC banner including 2 metal rod U-bolts & nuts that fit onto street pole’ and the unit price was R2 900.

[7] The 20 February meeting took place at the Garden Court Hotel in Eastgate. The same three persons met on that occasion, along with an additional person from Ezulweni. An oral agreement was concluded. Mabaso and Nkholise placed an order for 30 000 branded PVC banners at an agreed price of R2 900 per banner. In addition, a price of R70 per banner was agreed for their placement and removal. These would be employed as a final push to attract voters to the polling stations. Ezulweni would send designs for approval and place the banners shortly before the elections. It would remove them thereafter.

[8] After the meeting, Ezulweni set about filling the order. This included designing and ordering the printing of the banners from entities in Durban and China, ordering the material for the metal hangers and employing additional staff to assist in the production. Because some of the suppliers required deposits, Ramdas initially approached Nkholise, requesting assistance from the ANC in this regard. Nkholise said that this was not possible due to cash-flow constraints caused by the general election, but he assured Ramdas that Ezulweni would be paid immediately after the election campaign. The interim funding was then provided by one Mr Motlekar and the directors of Ezulweni personally.

[9] Thereafter, Ramdas ‘constantly communicated with [Nkholise and Mabaso] and kept them abreast of the progress of the project’. He put up photographs ‘which were shared with’ them and which showed such progress. These two sets of averments were not denied by the ANC, they were simply ‘noted’.

[10] On 4 April, Ezulweni sent an invoice to Nkholise for R87 million for the 30 000 PVC banners.[2] The legend was that these were ‘[as] per samples provided’. The ANC admitted receipt. After the election, final invoices for R100 050 000 and R2 415 000 respectively were sent.[3]​
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https://www.saflii.org/za/cases/ZASCA/2023/159.html

30 000 PVC banners that are 2.3mx1m, including fittings, placement and removal.

Though @2900 randelas a piece, I think they were getting absolutely fleeced.

Same sized banner costs R250, and I bet it would be a lot cheaper if you bought 3000 of them
https://faceprint.co.za/product/pvc-banners-1m-x-1m/

Very funny how the ANC is going to get Rekt by one of their own members wanting to grift. Just reward for creating an organisation that thrives on thievery


The real funny part of the judgement is this little piece of evidence:
(b) A message saying that Ezulweni had paid for the airfreight in the sum of R1.2 million for importing the PVC banners from China and proof of that payment; (c) Photographs of the finished brackets of the banners and a message advising that the banners would be distributed throughout the country, excluding Cape Town;
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Shows the ANC has just given up trying to win Cape Town.
 
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konfab said:
https://www.saflii.org/za/cases/ZASCA/2023/159.html

30 000 PVC banners that are 2.3mx1m, including fittings, placement and removal.

Though @2900 randelas a piece, I think they were getting absolutely fleeced.

Same sized banner costs R250, and I bet it would be a lot cheaper if you bought 3000 of them
https://faceprint.co.za/product/pvc-banners-1m-x-1m/

Very funny how the ANC is going to get Rekt by one of their own members wanting to grift. Just reward for creating an organisation that thrives on thievery


The real funny part of the judgement is this little piece of evidence:


Shows the ANC has just given up trying to win Cape Town.
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Live by the sword, die by the sword - love it :love:
 
Cray said:
Do they even have the money to pay for this? Also, would love to know what R102 Million in election materials buys you...
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No they don't, and they got fleeced by their own basically.. they maybe got R10m worth of election materials for that R100m invoice.
 
where's UncleNoClue on this matter? I see he's silent.
Oops.... hands caught in the cookie jar.
Take them for every cent and make it front page news aalllllllll theeeeeeeeeee waaaaaaaaaaaaay.
 
ToxicBunny said:
No they don't, and they got fleeced by their own basically.. they maybe got R10m worth of election materials for that R100m invoice.
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No doubt there's some round-tripping of funds involved - R250 banner sold to ANC for R2000 presumably by an ANC member (after all, why would you give the business to someone who isn't connected) - difference is then split by cadres providing the banners and cadres approving the purchase - fleecing the organisation government tender style (after all, the organisation is funded by donors so it's 'free money') - there is no honour amongst thieves.

Everyone eats.
 
AfricanTech said:
No doubt there's some round-tripping of funds involved - R250 banner sold to ANC for R2000 presumably by an ANC member (after all, why would you give the business to someone who isn't connected) - difference is then split by cadres providing the banners and cadres approving the purchase - fleecing the organisation government tender style (after all, the organisation is funded by donors so it's 'free money') - there is no honour amongst thieves.

Everyone eats.
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The ANC's failure of an appeal rested on them getting some unverified Whatsapp messages:

33] It remains to deal with the reasons why the application to lead further evidence brought by the ANC was dismissed with costs. As indicated, it was based on s 19(b) of the Superior Courts Act 10 of 2013. This empowers this court to ‘receive further evidence’ on appeal.[8] The further evidence sought to be introduced was the ‘forensic report and findings prepared by ENS Forensics (Pty) Ltd (ENS) which investigated the procurement process involving’ the two parties. The report itself was not put up in the papers. Only the executive summary (the summary) was put up. The summary was neither signed nor dated and the author was not identified in the founding affidavit. Neither the author, nor the persons to whom statements in the report were attributed, put up affidavits confirming those statements.



[34] The nub of the application appears from the following sentence in the summary:

‘On 23 February 2019, Mr Ramdas sent a WhatsApp message to Mr Mabaso in which he stated that if the ANC confirmed two orders with Ezulweni Mr Ramdas had worked out the figures and that they could all make “ten million each”.’



That was stated as a fact. The conclusion drawn was that this ‘appears to be indicative of a corrupt relationship between Mr Mabaso and Mr Ramdas’. The ultimate conclusion was that the conduct of Mr Mabaso appeared ‘to be negligent and/or irregular and/or potentially corrupt’. Both of these conclusions are founded on the statement of fact mentioned above. If there was no evidence supporting that statement, the conclusions would of necessity fall away. There was no verification that the message was authentic, or, indeed, sent in the form in which it appeared in the report. Nor was the entire message set out in the summary.​
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Judge dismissed it, but honestly, I think given the amounts involved, would bet it was absolutely a corrupt deal.

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konfab said:
The ANC's failure of an appeal rested on them getting some unverified Whatsapp messages:



Judge dismissed it, but honestly, I think given the amounts involved, would bet it was absolutely a corrupt deal.

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No question it was a corrupt deal from start to finish...

They just kind of forgot that it wasn't government money, but ANC money... so they have fscked the ANC directly this time around.
 
ToxicBunny said:
No question it was a corrupt deal from start to finish...

They just kind of forgot that it wasn't government money, but ANC money... so they have fscked the ANC directly this time around.
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Thats the problem if you are so used to spend the tax payer monies on over inflated tenders the lines get blurry where its your money and the tax money.
 
Priapus said:
@TheChamp - Is this still part of the ANC just disagreeing? Three court cases have been lost now. Please explain the logic you set out.

If three courts have said the same thing; it’s no longer about disagreeing, but rather avoiding paying your dues. Right?
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They are following the example set by Zuma, no court case is ever lost if you can still appeal.
 
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