ANC unaware of Zuma taking ill, getting treatment in Cuba

TheChamp

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not dirt on everyone, but he will damage the ANC if he meticulously just details all his own misdeeds

he is much too stupid to have done it all alone, the rot in the ANC goes deep, and Zuma might reveal just how deep

as the head of the ANC, Cyril can't let someone damage it even if he personally is innocent (which I doubt, but hypothetically)
Of course he did not do it alone, but why would Cyril be concerned if Zuma exposed his co-looters within the ANC? It would do Cyril a huge favour if Zuma were to spill the beans on the likes of Magashule or Supra, Zuma's factions has been Cyril's headache for a while now, I don't get your logic.
 

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Listen, Narrow, Zuma is already being sued for claiming others were spies or whatever.

If he had real dirt, he would have used it by now.
and if Cyril had any inclination to put the country first, he would have done it by now
 

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Of course he did not do it alone, but why would Cyril be concerned if Zuma exposed his co-looters within the ANC? It would do Cyril a huge favour if Zuma were to spill the beans on the likes of Magashule or Supra, Zuma's factions has been Cyril's headache for a while now, I don't get your logic.
you assume you know all the co-looters, or at least you assume they are not in Cyril's faction

those are dangerous assumptions to make
 

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Maybe you go read again. Your problem wasn't that you were at a loss for words; it was that your words were nonsensical.
He posted factual information on Cuba, where is the rabid defence?
 

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Maybe you go read again. Your problem wasn't that you were at a loss for words; it was that your words were nonsensical.

I'll leave you to return to your regular programming now since you are unable to make sense of my posts.
 

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and if Cyril had any inclination to put the country first, he would have done it by now

Again, you are oblivious to politics.

It took Zuma 9 years to sneak in his cadres and do state capture.

Cyril got into power by the skin of his teeth. We should be thankful for that.

Zuma being kicked off his chiefdom to go fume in Cuba is pretty sweet justice, if you ask me.
 

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you assume you know all the co-looters, or at least you assume they are not in Cyril's faction

those are dangerous assumptions to make
No, I am not assuming that, Mike Mabuyakhulu, who is one of Cyril's biggest supporters in KZN is facing fraud and corruption charges, it does not seem to bother Cyril much. We all know who are going to be the biggest losers when NPA and the Hawks tighten the screws, we all know which faction is heavily invested in state capture and corruption.

Cyril could lose a few from his faction, he can afford to, not so much for Zuma and his faction, there is just too much at stake.
 

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Of course anything triggers Zuma's paranoia.
You realize there were also Russian personnel for "training purposes" that arrived at Waterkloof and never left ... :unsure:

Ans yes, Russians are the poison specialists, ask the UK ... :laugh:
 

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A former head of state doesn’t just leave the country with nobody knowing in advance, unless it’s done on the sly.

And I very much doubt Cuba has any medical expertise better than what’s available locally (or in Singapore for that matter).

Reckon he’s done a runner.


If I had 6 wives and a few dozen children I would also do a runner.
 

TheChamp

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Oh go read. I've given you credit for not being stupid for a long time. Don't disappoint me now.
Nah, you seem to be annoyed for some reason. Anyone who reads the conversation between you two would agree there was never a rabid defence of Cuba.
 

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You realize there were also Russian personnel for "training purposes" that arrived at Waterkloof and never left ... :unsure:

Ans yes, Russians are the poison specialists, ask the UK ... :laugh:
uBaba running away from them perhaps?
 

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Nah, you seem to be annoyed for some reason. Anyone who reads the conversation between you two would agree there was never a rabid defence of Cuba.

A defence of Cuba being an expert on 5 year old cases of poisoning?
 

quovadis

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Oh go read. I've given you credit for not being stupid for a long time. Don't disappoint me now.

1. You say Cuba has no medical expertise.
2. I say educate yourself on their healthcare system.
3. You say I should prove it.
4. I provide factual information relating to Cuba's healthcare system in the context of healthcare worldwide and illustrate it further in comparing it to the US to illustrate they're doing way better with less resources.
5. You then accuse me of Anti-US dialogue.
6. I then counter stating that I'm a US permanent resident and thus far from Anti-US.
7. You then continue to say that I'm on a rant, defending cuba to the hilt and in rabid defence and non-sensical.
 
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