grok

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Why would anyone expect the same government who didn't plan ahead properly to now properly plan how to fix things?

No amount of wishing will turn a turd into gold, dreams of Wakanda is just that.

Can't say we weren't warned..
 

Thor

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surely a class action can be made against Gwede to hold him accountable.

Why can citizens not sue ministers?
 

KikzAzz

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And the key of course is

“Minister Mantashe is a fierce opponent of renewable energy, he’s a fierce opponent of the private sector, he’s a centralist and a communist, and he doesn’t want the private sector to actually participate.”

And he is looking after his own pockets. Anyone willing to do that is welcome. But preferably tenderpreneurs that is willing to share in the spoils.
 

Shadowchaser1

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When is someone just going to take the government to court over this? It's clearly a constitutional violation.

We need to form something that is the equivalent of OUTA to fight this battle and clean up the energy sector.
I don't think your country's law/s allow this. Not sure. What's scary is that you always read about the problem/s, but never what the solution/s is/are. Eskom loses nearly 40% of their capacity, but yet no solution. SA doesn't really have sub zero temperatures, the odd -4/5/6. WTF happens then? It's a typical failed communist state. Proof me wrong, how do SA think (Which they can't) want to do business? Unreal how the country went down the tubes, since I left 20 years ago. It's merely an observation.
 

zolly

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I don't think your country's law/s allow this.

I can't remember the exact circumstances, but our courts do have a lot of strength. I remember government got slammed by the courts recently on a decision they made and the govt came out and accused NGOs/interest groups of trying to run the country through the courts. Sadly, I can't remember what it was in relation to. I will update as soon as I find it.
 

Danie_V

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Where's the bit that shows the ANC is in chaos?

Or was it just to get a clickbait title?
OUCH - I made this exact comment about a post on Business Tech about a week back, and got a permanent ban with zero warning.... Just saying, but maybe My Broadband is broader minded ;-)
 

ronvickers

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Daily Eskom power cuts for South Africa and no solutions — because the ANC is in chaos

South Africa's Independent Power Producer Procurement Programme (IPPPP) has faced several delays since the first request for proposal was released in 2011 — and the country won't see private power added to the grid until mid-2023.

This is according to the chairman of the African Independent Power Producers Association, Thomas Garner.
GREED Mantashe is only interested in power that generates Turkish lire, dollars or Swiss Franc's, electricity is the least of his worries.
 

Oldfut

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GREED Mantashe is only interested in power that generates Turkish lire, dollars or Swiss Franc's, electricity is the least of his worries.
This except I don't think he's even worried about the scheme generating any power at all as long as he, and his ANC tjommies, get the shekels. See the SA Russian nuclear build (sic).
 

Cius

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Solar installation booked for 9th June. Can't wait. Spent last night in darkness again.
 

Jofran

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Mantashe needs to be replaced forthwith and Eskom should be run by competent independent engineers who are charged with providing a workable solution to our power problems and held to account by an independent body of power experts, chaired by a competent technical expert, and allowed to get on with the job with minimal political interference.
 

wingnut771

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Mantashe needs to be replaced forthwith and Eskom should be run by competent independent engineers who are charged with providing a workable solution to our power problems and held to account by an independent body of power experts, chaired by a competent technical expert, and allowed to get on with the job with minimal political interference.
You just described how it was run pre-1994. Unfortunately, until "The Collective" are cast aside, and The Country comes before the Party instead of the Party before The Country, nothing is going to change. Same with local government, before it was run by rate payers association (citizens), now its run by blood sucking politicians and their cronies stealing all the money. Now we have daily power and water failures, potholes, sewerage flowing into rivers from broken water treatment plants etc etc, basically the infrastructure has been neglected for 30 years.
 
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