Android might not stay free thanks to massive fine

Tander said:
What about them?



They do not. Their OS's (macOS, tvOS, watchOs and iOS) only run on Apple hardware (Officially)
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Their Google's biggest competitor in this space who also engages in anticompetitive behavior
 
mmmig said:
You don't seem to understand what I'm talking about
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I think we all do, you're trying to use whatsboutism to make it an Android v Apple argument, when it isn't.

Apple is a closed proprietary system that is not used by any other company, what Google have been fined for with regard to how they've handled their open system in an anti-competitive manner is what's being discussed.
 
Dave said:
I think we all do, you're trying to use whatsboutism to make it an Android v Apple argument, when it isn't.

Apple is a closed proprietary system that is not used by any other company, what Google have been fined for with regard to how they've handled their open system in an anti-competitive manner is what's being discussed.
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Nope Apple is the biggest tech company in the world who many experts say is also engaging in anticompetive behavior.
 
mmmig said:
Nope Apple is the biggest tech company in the world who many experts say is also engaging in anticompetive behavior.
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Which is absolutely nothing to do with this topic about Google.

Also it would seem that none of the regulators currently seem to share your opinion (unless I've missed any recent anti-competitive enquiries finding against Apple?).
 
backstreetboy said:
Not sure since I haven't one used yet but the point is you can fork android.
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The EU's point is that it can't be done easily, or can't be done and keep the Google apps and Google financially reward the companies for preinstalling their apps, I think that's also the crux of the EU case against Google now.
 
GMS (Google Mobile Services) is completely separate and distinct from Android, and requires a separate licence. Android was bought by Google in 2005, and the company then developed the quite separate and distinct GMS, which it licensed to handset makers. Ordinary vanilla Android sans GMS is open source and licensed under the Non-Copyleft Apache and Copyleft GNU agreements, so anyone can use it, without using the name Android, which is separately copyrighted and licensed.

It's GMS that has the Google apps and Playstore.

I suspect the EU fine and directive relate only to GMS licences.
 
Arthur said:
GMS (Google Mobile Services) is completely separate and distinct from Android, and requires a separate licence. Android was bought by Google in 2005, and the company then developed the quite separate and distinct GMS, which it licensed to handset makers. Ordinary vanilla Android sans GMS is open source and licensed under the Non-Copyleft Apache and Copyleft GNU agreements, so anyone can use it, without using the name Android, which is separately copyrighted and licensed.

It's GMS that has the Google apps and Playstore.

I suspect the EU fine and directive relate only to GMS licences.
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This is what the EU has fined them for:

Commissioner Margrethe Vestager, in charge of competition policy, said: "Today, mobile internet makes up more than half of global internet traffic. It has changed the lives of millions of Europeans. Our case is about three types of restrictions that Google has imposed on Android device manufacturers and network operators to ensure that traffic on Android devices goes to the Google search engine. In this way, Google has used Android as a vehicle to cement the dominance of its search engine. These practices have denied rivals the chance to innovate and compete on the merits. They have denied European consumers the benefits of effective competition in the important mobile sphere.

This is illegal under EU antitrust rules."

In particular, Google:

has required manufacturers to pre-install the Google Search app and browser app (Chrome), as a condition for licensing Google's app store (the Play Store);

made payments to certain large manufacturers and mobile network operators on condition that they exclusively pre-installed the Google Search app on their devices; and

has prevented manufacturers wishing to pre-install Google apps from selling even a single smart mobile device running on alternative versions of Android that were not approved by Google (so-called "Android forks").
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http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-18-4581_en.htm
 
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