Angus Buchan apologises for saying only 'Jewish and Afrikaans people' have 'covenant with God'

[Polymathic]

I find this statement ironic, from my personal experience the vast majority of deeply religious Afrikaaners I've encountered are seriously anti-Semitic. Somehow they all find a way to work in an anti-Semitic statement into the company conversation within 5 minutes of starting the conversation.

 

[surface]

I find this statement ironic, from my personal experience the vast majority of deeply religious Afrikaaners I've encountered are seriously anti-Semitic. Somehow they all find a way to work in an anti-Semitic statement into the company conversation within 5 minutes of starting the conversation.

My personal experience is that they exhibit anti-english sentiments. Maybe different strokes for different folks?

Come to think of it. Perhaps anti-semitic doesn't come in conversations I had because "my" country of origin is "friends" with israel and they think that because english colonized "my" country, there could be some common talking points there?

 

[rambo919]

I find this statement ironic, from my personal experience the vast majority of deeply religious Afrikaaners I've encountered are seriously anti-Semitic. Somehow they all find a way to work in an anti-Semitic statement into the company conversation within 5 minutes of starting the conversation.

Vast majority? I doubt it. You forget the blood feud between the Boere and Afrikaners that some still fight. Some people just don't like anyone that is not themselves.

 

[Polymathic]

My personal experience is that they exhibit anti-english sentiments. Maybe different strokes for different folks?

Come to think of it. Perhaps anti-semitic doesn't come in conversations I had because "my" country of origin is "friends" with israel and they think that because english colonized "my" country, there could be some common talking points there?

I should point out there's a fairly large Jehovah's Witness and Catholic Community and there seems to be a low key turf war between them

For the less openly religious Afrikaaners they'll never miss out on an opportunity to talk crap about the English heaven forbid there's a English person you both mutually know. The amount of dirt they'll dish up on that person is shocking

 

[Polymathic]

Vast majority? I doubt it. You forget the blood feud between the Boere and Afrikaners that some still fight. Some people just don't like anyone that is not themselves.

The vast majority of "Deeply Religious" Afrikaaners. The ones that bring up religion any chance they can get.

 

[ToxicBunny]

I should point out there's a fairly large Jehovah's Witness and Catholic Community and there seems to be a low key turf war between them

For the less openly religious Afrikaaners they'll never miss out on an opportunity to talk crap about the English heaven forbid there's a English person you both mutually know. The amount of dirt they'll dish up on that person is shocking

Its ok, we English can give as good as we get really.... and I am usually easily persuaded to buy a round or two as well to keep the banter going.

 

[Unhappy438]

I remember one particular vid, the dude was just handing out pamphlets on a normal day, some people were respectful but some went from curious to outright frothing at the mouth. One actually went as far as saying "they deserve it."

So no it's not a case of "dude it's on the internet" these were actual random reactions. When it comes to activists though the general reactions are the expected ones. The left hates us and the right are dismissive seeing as they are the only people that really matter in their own eyes.

So why dont you post some of these videos.

 

[rambo919]

The vast majority of "Deeply Religious" Afrikaaners. The ones that bring up religion any chance they can get.

A lot of those are actually Jedea-philes or however you say it. Israel can do no wrong in their eyes.

And then there is the subsection that believe that modern Jews are imposters and they are the actual Jews....

 

[Hamish McPanji]

Both countries were also artificially forced together

Both have Internet
Both have access to the sea
Both have cities, towns, townships and villages
Both grow oranges

 

[Whright]

Its ok, we English can give as good as we get really.... and I am usually easily persuaded to buy a round or two as well to keep the banter going.

Don't you mean you are a South African who speaks English.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Don't you mean you are a South African who speaks English.

Nah, real English... South Africans who speak English are culturally appropriating the language and should all be shot.

 

[Nicodeamus]

Vast majority? I doubt it. You forget the blood feud between the Boere and Afrikaners that some still fight. Some people just don't like anyone that is not themselves.

huh?

 

[ToxicBunny]

huh?

They're so confused and hate themselves that they just swing punches at themselves randomly...

 

[ForceFate]

My personal experience is that they exhibit anti-english sentiments. Maybe different strokes for different folks?

Come to think of it. Perhaps anti-semitic doesn't come in conversations I had because "my" country of origin is "friends" with israel and they think that because english colonized "my" country, there could be some common talking points there?

Something I never really understood...much of the anti-English sentiments have to do with history but if you travel east from Pta, you encounter many Afrikaners (the "100% boerseun" types) of English/Irish/Scottish descend. How do things work in this instance?

 

[Nicodeamus]

They're so confused and hate themselves that they just swing punches at themselves randomly...

So just to clarify or to give context to stupidity, there never was a Boer/Afrikaner divide. The Afrikaner historian Herman Giliomee was once asked this question. Basically it was invented by the mad leader of the Boeremag (the guy who thought that they could put pap next to the road and lure all the black people to Massina):

 

[lived666]

So basically some dude apologized because other people are offended cause they also want to be in groups and have special deals made with the imaginary sky fairy daddy guy?

**** me, humans are weird.

 

[surface]

Something I never really understood...much of the anti-English sentiments have to do with history but if you travel east from Pta, you encounter many Afrikaners (the "100% boerseun" types) of English/Irish/Scottish descend. How do things work in this instance?

I have noticed that there is a perceived "sophistication" in being branded english in the eyes of some. At the same time, I kid you not, I have had innumerable afrikaners saying that they had some indian connection in their family - meaning someone of their close relative's mother/father had indian ancestry. I wouldn't know really but at one point, I did consider it a bit of "white lie" to establish rapport. I could be 100% wrong though.

 

[buka001]

Its ok, we English can give as good as we get really.... and I am usually easily persuaded to buy a round or two as well to keep the banter going.

This and just call the biggest guy "seun".

 

[The Trutherizer]

If you ask me it sounds like he was referring to the actual covenant that was made by Jews in biblical times and then the covenant made by the Voortrekkers during the great trek.
That hardly covers all Afrikaners btw. I've always found the notion that a group going kaalvoet oor die drakensberge could make a vow on behalf of an entire cultural group to be ridiculous. Most of whom were still in the Cape Colony at the time.
In any case, I'm as irreverent as they come although I know about some of this stuff. I expect there has been many cases where groups have made some vow like that. So he is probably wrong.

 

[rambo919]

So just to clarify or to give context to stupidity, there never was a Boer/Afrikaner divide. The Afrikaner historian Herman Giliomee was once asked this question. Basically it was invented by the mad leader of the Boeremag (the guy who thought that they could put pap next to the road and lure all the black people to Massina):

I rather doubt that to be an actual fact. In this case it seems more his opinion, having read his book I remember him admitting there was never any solid starting point of "Afrikaner" in the first place.

No in some peoples minds the divide is very real whether it is or not. It has to do with culture/history not genetics, those more under colonial influence are referred to as Afrikaners and those more under separatist republic influence as Boere.