Angus Buchan apologises for saying only 'Jewish and Afrikaans people' have 'covenant with God'

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garp said:
The only miracle is that so many suckers attend this bigoted, homophobic, misogynistic dinosaur's bible thumping circle jerks, covenant or no.
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You sound jealous that your people are not amongst those who had a covenant with God.
 
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Has anyone mentioned in the 221 previous posts that I have skimmed through, that the Blood River covenant of 1838 is a myth?
 
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Polymathic said:
Maybe you are the one bringing up god into the conversation within 5 minutes? Ever thought about that?
But yeah it seems there's a trend of people with a serious chip on shoulder for a group they hate, always having the urge to switch the conversation to about the group of people they hate.
I guess these people are obsessed about the group they hate.
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Zealots are all alike.
Militant-type Atheists are zealots, and are no different to any other zealots.
 
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Ponderer said:
Zealots are all alike.
Militant-type Atheists are zealots, and are no different to any other zealots.
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So you keep saying. Why don't you be a good Christian and instead of never shutting up about it, maybe just turn the other cheek and pray for them?
 
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Spizz said:
Has anyone mentioned in the 221 previous posts that I have skimmed through, that the Blood River covenant of 1838 is a myth?
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Lol obviously it is. Just like all of history and reality. Everything is a myth.
 
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Daruk said:
Tell us about his views on the role of genders? You realise you have religion to thank for many of the good things you enjoy in life?
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Religion is also to thank for much of the shyte as well.....
 
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RonSwanson said:
Which you appear to have not read or understood, so let me make it easier. Covenant theology is pretty simple, there are only six biblical covenants. Three have been fulfilled (Abramic, Noahic, Mosaic). The remaining ones (which continue, and are not yet completely fulfilled) are Adamic, Davidic and New. Of the remaining ones, the first addresses all mankind, second addresses the Jews, and the third also addresses all mankind.
Exactly which of them address the "Afrikaner" people exclusively in support of Buchan's statement? This is the key question, because Buchan purports to be an elder, and as an elder needs to be able to teach the truth from holy scripture.
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Seeing as all scripture ended shortly before the destruction of the Temple it would be impossible to specify any further covenants would it not? Also seeing as this particular covenant is of no matter to anyone other than Afrikaners why would it be included in scripture?

To believe in any set orthodox theology without question is an intellectual trap, the same trap the Sadducee's, Faracee's, Catholics, Orthodox, NGK etc fell into. Tradition becoming dogma never ends well.

The NGK Sinod in the 70s and 80s clearly made it part their (flawed) doctrine. The "likeness to Israel" at that time (ostracisation from the rest of the world, drought, warfare) was exploited to indoctrinate the "Afrikaner" people in the belief that they were specifically shared in the covenants that God had with the Jewish people. This was the basis for Apartheid, which was justified in the light of the fact that Jewish people were prohibited to marry people of other tribes (in order to keep the bloodline clean for the saviour, Jesus Christ, in fulfillment of the Adamic, Davidic and New covenants).

Again, I have to ask you, exactly which of them address the "Afrikaner" people exclusively. What is it that you are defending, if not Buchan and his theology?
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Which actually proves my point, the theological ideas were older than that decision and the decision only happened because of political pressure. From the very start the NGK opposed the great trek, the war that blood river was part of and the covenant itself, then when the political winds shifted they suddenly endorsed it..... it did not start with them.

Buchan misused the emotional power of the covenant in his favour, it's not him I am defending. He has proven to be either a fraud or a coward, I would have thought I had made this opinion clear by now.

There was more than one basis for Apartheid, what you mention here is just one of many and chiefly used for propagandic purposes, it was not the main one. You start your history too late and ignore too many things.
 
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ToxicBunny said:
Mind explaining what shyte atheism is specifically responsible for?
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This logic is coming - "If it wasn't for religion, we all will be killing/raping/looting/enslaving people and beating your kids/wives" or "Hitler was atheist" or "where do you get absolute morality from"
 
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surface said:
This logic is coming - "If it wasn't for religion, we all will be killing/raping/looting/enslaving people and beating your kids/wives" or "Hitler was atheist" or "where do you get absolute morality from"
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I was expecting the communist angle, and wasn't disappointed.
 
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buka001 said:
I must have missed the note where people were killed in the name of atheism.
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Read a book. They weren't killed in the name of atheism, but because of atheism if that little semantic difference makes you feel better about yourself.
 
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