annual increases

[ToxicBunny]

i haven't stayed long enough at a company to get an increase in the last 3 years
job hopping is much more lucrative.. screw what the recruiters think!

Job hopping will eventually bite you in the ass..... be careful

 

[pjjdp]

7% CTC

 

[Icarium]

8.9% CTC, company average is around 5% so I'm not complaining.

 

[SlinkyMike]

10% Where have you been the national DEMAND is 18%. I guess we the employees that are not wage workers end up with the table scraps.

Sorry but this 'African monkeys' post is (as usual) HUGELY ignorant. I assume that by 'wage workers' you are implying some sort of 'untermenschen' or similar class (although entirely more likely...) racial division?

FYI: 18% of R2000pm is a FAR CRY from 18% of R20000pm or in many cases well above that so what you consider table scraps is far more likely to be a hefty helping of the feast.

 

[syntax]

over just under 2 years i had a single 7.5% increase..
Considering inflation, and what it realistically is at...thats not good enough..
I recently resigned and have moved for a fair increase

 

[SafariTin]

Job hopping will eventually bite you in the ass..... be careful

Depends on your age though...

 

[SlinkyMike]

Depends on your age though...

Go on pls... I don't quite follow.

 

[Mila]

Sorry but this 'African monkeys' post is (as usual) HUGELY ignorant. I assume that by 'wage workers' you are implying some sort of 'untermenschen' or similar class (although entirely more likely...) racial division?

FYI: 18% of R2000pm is a FAR CRY from 18% of R20000pm or in many cases well above that so what you consider table scraps is far more likely to be a hefty helping of the feast.

no The wage worker that can strike. Not the salary workers that does not have a union.
That is what I meant. LAst year samething happend.

Oh bye the way the Wage workers got 10% last year.
The Salary guys received 2.5%.

This year the wage workers got 12% and some of us ended up with 0%.

So yes that is table scraps.

 

[SlinkyMike]

no The wage worker that can strike. Not the salary workers that does not have a union.
That is what I meant. LAst year samething happend.

Oh bye the way the Wage workers got 10% last year.
The Salary guys received 2.5%.

This year the wage workers got 12% and some of us ended up with 0%.

So yes that is table scraps.

Again: what percent of what??

8% of my current monthly earnings is a tidy sum... not so for the chap who cleans out hospital waste (I don't know the salary/wage of such a person, just guessing) for him 18% is still not that much as we are taking about percentages!

 

[Viper25]

Depends on your age though...

So whats the cut off age?

 

[syntax]

So whats the cut off age?

i think it depends on your previous track record as well, you should at least have somewhere where you have spent more than 2+years (if in IT) and 3+ years in other industries.
jumping around does get you increases, but after a while companies simply wont bother investing in you since you are almost guaranteed to leave....

 

[Mila]

Again: what percent of what??

8% of my current monthly earnings is a tidy sum... not so for the chap who cleans out hospital waste (I don't know the salary/wage of such a person, just guessing) for him 18% is still not that much as we are taking about percentages!

So I have to get no increase? 10% on my salary does not cover the incease of my medical aid. I did not even get that, i got 2% in 2 years.

 

[SlinkyMike]

So I have to get no increase? 10% on my salary does not cover the incease of my medical aid. I did not even get that, i got 2% in 2 years.

No.

You posted about the 'national demand' being 18%. It seems you find this outrageous... this about those people who have 'demanded' and 18% increase, not about your medical aid. I am trying to point out that an 18% increase on a lesser amount is not as outrageous as 18% on a larger amount. It is simple mathematics really but you seem not to be able to separate emotions from it... which is fair, money is often an emotional topic.

 

[KillerX]

No.

You posted about the 'national demand' being 18%. It seems you find this outrageous... this about those people who have 'demanded' and 18% increase, not about your medical aid. I am trying to point out that an 18% increase on a lesser amount is not as outrageous as 18% on a larger amount. It is simple mathematics really but you seem not to be able to separate emotions from it... which is fair, money is often an emotional topic.

I for one find it outrageous. We are sitting in a country with 22-38% unemployment depending on definition. We desperately need to grow our job pool. How can people who do not have matric in most cases, make demands of increases around 2 or 3 times inflation, year after year after year..... It is unsustainable. We do not live on a secluded island. Big multinationals such as Toyota, mercedes, VW... etc will simply move their assembly plants to China - and the Chinese are absolutely loving it.

At the end of the day, that money has to come from somewhere, and companies will simply not expand their labour forces, but infact make them smaller and outsource cheaper - which just causes more unemployment... and round and round we go.

 

[SlinkyMike]

How can people who do not have matric in most cases, make demands of increases around 2 or 3 times inflation, year after year after year.....

Because they hardly earn a living wage. Simple.

 

[Jola]

Because they hardly earn a living wage. Simple.

Hardly a living wage is better than nothing.

Like what the ex-workers at the Sapekoe tea plantations near Tzaneen are getting after the shareholders simply shut the operation down after the wage demands became unmanageable.

The world is a small place - others can do what you do - and many have much better productivity.

A problem if you compete with the tea plantation workers in Sri Lanka.

But at the end of the day this concept applies to most jobs - maybe not rubbish removal, but that can be mechanised.

 

[TelkomUseless]

make demands of increases around 2 or 3 times inflation, year after year after year..... It is unsustainable. We do not live on a secluded island. Big multinationals such as Toyota, mercedes, VW... etc will simply move their assembly plants to China - and the Chinese are absolutely loving it.

At the end of the day, that money has to come from somewhere, and companies will simply not expand their labour forces, but infact make them smaller and outsource cheaper - which just causes more unemployment... and round and round we go.

Hit the nail on the head. I can only guess goverment is too dumb to see the price of electricity, toll roads on N1 etc are raising inflasion, and at the end of the day... salaries get more expensive... and we as SA lose our competitive edge. Other countries (china,india,sri-lanka, etc) are becoming more a destination for investments that us... which is very very sad.