Anonymous distances itself from WikiLeaks

LazyLion

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/oct/12/anonymous-distances-itself-wikileaks

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Anonymous said: 'We only hear about Julian Assange, like he had dinner last night with Lady Gaga.'
Photograph: Alex Milan Tracy/Demotix/Corbis

Hacker collective says whistleblowers website has become the 'Julian Assange show'

The computer hacker collective Anonymous has distanced itself from WikiLeaks, claiming the whistleblowers' site has become too focused on the personal tribulations of its founder, Julian Assange.

A statement posted on the Anonymous Twitter account, AnonymousIRC, described WikiLeaks as "the one man Julian Assange show" after the website began asking users to pay for access to millions of leaked documents.

"The idea behind WikiLeaks was to provide the public with information that would otherwise be kept secret by industries and governments. Information we strongly believe the public has a right to know," said the statement on behalf of Anonymous.

"But this has been pushed more and more into the background, instead we only hear about Julian Assange, like he had dinner last night with Lady Gaga. That's great for him but not much of our interest. We are more interested in transparent governments and bringing out documents and information they want to hide from the public."

Anonymous has long been one of WikiLeaks's most loyal and vocal allies. Supporters bearing Anonymous posters regularly turned out at Assange's public announcements, and members of the group have waged an online campaign against critics of the whistleblowers' site.

WikiLeaks said it is funded entirely by donations from members of the public. The site angered some users on Thursday after it made a donation page automatically appear before it allowed access to leaked documents. Some users are unable to view WikiLeaks material unless they choose to donate money to the site. WikiLeaks said on Twitter that the move was an attempt to counter what it called "high costs in military courts".

In the statement, Anonymous told its 285,000 followers that WikiLeaks was an "awesome idea ruined by egos" and claimed the site had abandoned the ideals of freedom of expression.

The group added: "We have been worried about the direction WikiLeaks is going for a while. In the recent month the focus moved away from actual leaks and the fight for freedom of information further and further while it concentrated more and more on Julian Assange. It goes without saying that we oppose any plans of extraditing Julian to the USA. He is a content provider and publisher, not a criminal."

The dispute could starve WikiLeaks of potentially newsworthy leaks in the future, as some of the site's recent disclosures – including the cache of Stratfor emails – are alleged to have come from Anonymous.

Hmm, that sounds familiar.... Oh yes... that was me calling him an egotistical a$$ about a year or two ago! ;)
 

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You hate wikileaks because they released documents, you use assange as an excuse.

I think the US destroyed the freedoms when they went after assange, now everyone is shytting themselves because they realize freedom only exists when the US is not involved.
 

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yeah, that's why I criticise ALL the whistleblower organisations on this forum all the time right?

oh, wait, I've only ever posted about wikileaks and Mr. AssAngel himself! ;)
 

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awesome idea ruined by egos

Forgive my noobish conjecture, but doesn't that sound exactly like Anonymous, too? As my friend once said, "they're too busy trying to be Hollywood names than worrying about the actual cause".

Anonymous Own3r has taken down GoDaddy three times and now Facebook (last night), for what? Just to assert himself as some kind of hacker that's above everyone else's skill ability?
 
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Assange is like Malema - If he hadn't made such a controversial fuss within a society, would he be labelled as he is?

Is he the egotistical ass people say he is, because he is labelled as such, or because people are obsessed with him because of what he does?

The truth is probably a combination of the two, a fact which people from both 'camps' often seem to forget.
 

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Assange is like Malema - If he hadn't made such a controversial fuss within a society, would he be labelled as he is?

Is he the egotistical ass people say he is, because he is labelled as such, or because people are obsessed with him because of what he does?

The truth is probably a combination of the two, a fact which people from both 'camps' often seem to forget.

He is being hunted by the empire and thus far he is winning :D.

Anonymous are worse than wikileaks, they keep hacking and making our lives difficult for what? To show they can hack websites? Bunch of losers if you ask me, they should focus on doing what assange did and going after people who are naughty. Which they have done but hacking godaddy and facebook just makes the average person angry.

Gary will support people who take down websites for no reason but he won't support a website/company that tries to get the truth out. Odd
 

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He is being hunted by the empire and thus far he is winning :D.

Anonymous are worse than wikileaks, they keep hacking and making our lives difficult for what? To show they can hack websites? Bunch of losers if you ask me, they should focus on doing what assange did and going after people who are naughty. Which they have done but hacking godaddy and facebook just makes the average person angry.

Gary will support people who take down websites for no reason but he won't support a website/company that tries to get the truth out. Odd

Sorry, please quote me where I have said I support anonymous. I think you will find that I criticise them just as much as Mr. AssAngel himself. Their egos are just about as large. It's just a cat fight, if you ask me! :D

I just found it interesting that someone else was pointing out the guys monumental ego! :D
 

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Sorry, please quote me where I have said I support anonymous. I think you will find that I criticise them just as much as Mr. AssAngel himself. Their egos are just about as large. It's just a cat fight, if you ask me! :D

I just found it interesting that someone else was pointing out the guys monumental ego! :D

Fair enough :D. Until anonymous take on the empire and have members who do not roll on them they are nothing more than idiots.

You need to have an ego when you take on the empire, you need to be able to fight and ensure they don't grab you. Unlike anonymous who had their main member roll on all of them when facing the empire.

Anonymous are nothing more than trouble makers, all assange did was release the truth. He never messed with people's daily lives he just showed the world how bad the US army really is.

Now we await the gaga assange sex tape :D
 

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I've also posted links of people who have died because of wikkileaks but killa has been conveniently ignoring them as well.
 

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I've also posted links of people who have died because of wikkileaks but killa has been conveniently ignoring them as well.

That was not a link about people who have died because of Wikileaks, it was a link about people blustering about people dying, but not actually pointing to any occasions where it has happened.

Let's also not forget that the USA military establishment wanted nothing to do with redacting the stuff, which was an offer made to them by Wikileaks.
 

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I have honestly never seen a link to these dead people, sounds similar to iraq has wmd's to me.

Load of BS that US supporters eat up, the US does not need to give evidence their word is gospel for many.
 

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I have honestly never seen a link to these dead people, sounds similar to iraq has wmd's to me.

Load of BS that US supporters eat up, the US does not need to give evidence their word is gospel for many.

Unfortunately I share these sentiments...
 

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I'm sure the number of those killed is fairly significant. Unfortunately we will never know the true number as many of the deaths will go unreported, or will form part of suicide bombings, or will be attributed to other motives. But the fact that Al Qaeda said they would act on the information is threat enough. They do regularly assassinate people. They even tried to assassinate a teenage girl the other day. If you want proof, just Google for "Al Qaeda kill...." and you will get many news articles. But as usual, that kind of proof is "not enough" for those who defend these pigs and support their efforts.
 

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Ive been saying for a while now. Saw this coming from a while ago. As I said the last time, people close to Wikileaks are not happy with the direction of Wikileaks under Julian.
 
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