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paulka007

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2009 - first stage of the cable should go live. I don't get it you mean they'll only start in 2009 to put the cable down? with all these prospectvie cables running around - LOL - by 2020 we'll have more cables running to our country than sheep in new Zealand.
 
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hopefully this mean very very cheap/fast and high usage internet or is it just a nother way for Telkom & Friends to give you a 12Mbs line and tell you, that there is a 3GB cap??
 
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2009?

I would be interested to know the basis of the projection of the first parts of the system having a RFCS date in 2009.
 
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geoffr said:
I would be interested to know the basis of the projection of the first parts of the system having a RFCS date in 2009.
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Same here. From Duncan's article about this issue:

Henry Chasia said: “The design has already been done and contact has been made with manufacturers and cable layers.”
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According to Chasia the design has been done etc, but Ivy wants SEACOM and InfraCo to be incorporated into this Nepad project. Is the design so flexible? Where will they start to survey the seabed and lay the cable (to avoid potential duplication)? And when will they secure the $ 2-Billion?

EASSy is 5 years down the road and they did not even start with construction yet. And Nepad wants to have an active cable in 2 years. I have my doubts :D
 
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The reason why international bandwidth is so expensive in South Africa is simply because Telkom has a monopoly in this arena. This is in fact not only true for international bandwidth, but is also the reason for our general high telecoms costs, poor and expensive broadband offerings and a general lack of service in the fixed line market.
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Then do something about it Minister, and you holding to your stake in Telkom, just states that you are in favour of this.
 
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Isn't the "NEPAD" cable old news?

I'm sure I saw a news story that put this cable in financial difficulties - already. Perhaps I'm reading the news ahead of time... again... seeing as this cable has only just been revealed. Damn - I've got to find a way to turn that off...
 
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I would love to know how much of the DoC dividends goes directly into Ivy's and her cronies pockets?
The scary thing is that she is making decisions that has extremely long term effects. She could be out in the next elections and by then we are all stuffed.
All these guys are interested in is feathering their own pockets for as long as possible and screw everyone else. Makes me sick.
 
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Charlie. said:
Isn't the "NEPAD" cable old news?

I'm sure I saw a news story that put this cable in financial difficulties - already. Perhaps I'm reading the news ahead of time... again... seeing as this cable has only just been revealed. Damn - I've got to find a way to turn that off...
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That was the Eassy Cable. This is a completely different cable
 
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I would like to raise again the issue of the shareholding in Telkom, specifically the mysterious buyers of the Thintana stake and their ties to the ANC.
It is and remains my contention that the Telkom monopoly is allowed to persist - nay, forced to persist - is not primarily because of the financial benefit to the DoC/Government, but because of the shareholder benefits flowing directly into the coffers of the ANC through their holdings via various fronts.
Whenever the gov makes noises/tables plans (such as the new cable)/bleats about Telkom's excessive pricing/profits - then you must see this is pure grandstanding; as paying lip-service to the needs of the population and the economy. They (the ANC) have NO intention of curtailing the Telkomonopoly unless forced to.
Come on - they have had AMPLE opportunities to address it: empowering ICASA to enforce price cuts; LLU; allowing more competition; etc etc. That is why rpm rightly points out the real topics that never get discussed - the gov will say whatever they have to to silence the critics for a few more days or weeks - but they will DO nothing.
The ANC (not the gov) is effectively taxing the population (and, since telecomms (internet!) is essentially a service enjoyed primarily by the haves, specifically of Previously Advantaged Individuals) to line their own pockets ...
This ugly little secret needs to be aired and discussed and used to shame the gov, but the only way is by determining WHO the real Telkom shareholders are. Start your investigation by asking who the buyers were of the Thintana 40% stake...

Makes my whiskers itch.

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Another camel being designed by a commitee of politicians ...

I thought the SAT3 landing rights exclusivity was up on 1 October? Anyone know what the SAT3 status is?
 
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Yip, only "rich" people can afford ADSL. So if you want it, pay (big) time for it. Goverment knows that!
 
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as long as the retard that is Lyndall is in power, broadband in this country will not reach its desired aspirations.
 
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Well some cheap 1/3GB 384 ADSL isn't really very expensive anymore, it's just very useless.

So if they incorporated Seacom's cable, would that simply take over Nepad's east cost and european cable ambitions, or would another cable still be built by Nepad?
 
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I would like to raise again the issue of the shareholding in Telkom, specifically the mysterious buyers of the Thintana stake and their ties to the ANC.
It is and remains my contention that the Telkom monopoly is allowed to persist - nay, forced to persist - is not primarily because of the financial benefit to the DoC/Government, but because of the shareholder benefits flowing directly into the coffers of the ANC through their holdings via various fronts.
Whenever the gov makes noises/tables plans (such as the new cable)/bleats about Telkom's excessive pricing/profits - then you must see this is pure grandstanding; as paying lip-service to the needs of the population and the economy. They (the ANC) have NO intention of curtailing the Telkomonopoly unless forced to.
Come on - they have had AMPLE opportunities to address it: empowering ICASA to enforce price cuts; LLU; allowing more competition; etc etc. That is why rpm rightly points out the real topics that never get discussed - the gov will say whatever they have to to silence the critics for a few more days or weeks - but they will DO nothing.
The ANC (not the gov) is effectively taxing the population (and, since telecomms (internet!) is essentially a service enjoyed primarily by the haves, specifically of Previously Advantaged Individuals) to line their own pockets ...
This ugly little secret needs to be aired and discussed and used to shame the gov, but the only way is by determining WHO the real Telkom shareholders are. Start your investigation by asking who the buyers were of the Thintana 40% stake...
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THANK YOU spacemuis!

This is what ive also been thinking for a while now. It doesnt make sense for gov to keep the telkom monopoly going just because huge dividends are earned from its share - its peanuts when compared to other revenue streams that the state has, ie. taxes, etc. It is much more likely that telkom has private shareholders with close ties to powerful ANC members (and who knows, maybe even Ivy and Thabo himself have shares). And make no mistake, these people will keep the telkom gravy train rolling as long as possible....

Can someone with more knowledge than me on the subject (rpm, Debbie, dominic) tell me if there has been some kind of investigation around this? It seems so obvious and entirely plausible!
 
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