Anti-Gang Unit revs into gear, as Ramaphosa hands over 50 BMWs

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I bet those complaining for the sake of complaining have never lived in a gang-infested neighbourhood.
 
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The_Mowgs

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Don't because your point is moot. There's now a specialised gang unit within the SAPS now to help tackle the gang problem on the flats - that's all that matters.

The CoCT has a specialised gang unit with marked cars too - doesn't stop them from doing their duties.

SWAT is marked SWAT... so what?

If they want to do an undercover sting, then they'll go undercover.
I bet those complaining for the sake of complaining have have lived in a gang-infested neighbourhood.
One doesn't even need to have lived there to see the impact.
Did I once say I am against the deployment of the unit? I am against the entire press release regarding the unit. In my opinion these guys should not be know to the public nor should their vehicles as this makes unnecessary targets of them but hey, I guess you 3 know best.

Lets talk again in a couple of months.
 

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Did I once say I am against the deployment of the unit? I am against the entire press release regarding the unit. In my opinion these guys should not be know to the public nor should their vehicles as this makes unnecessary targets of them but hey, I guess you 3 know best.

Lets talk again in a couple of months.
Rubbish. Marked vehicles increase visible policing, potentially saving lives.
 

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These are unmarked so your point is moot...
Bad reporting by News24.

There were 50 dedicated AGU vehicles handed over including marked and unmarked;

https://www.news24.com/Video/SouthAfrica/News/watch-ramaphosa-responds-to-the-call-for-an-intervention-in-cape-flats-gangsterism-20181102

https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/western-cape/look-saps-anti-gang-unit-receives-50-brand-new-vehicles-during-launch-17750230

Either way, damned if they do something about gangs, and damned if they don't.

If we had it your way, we'd just disband dedicated units together.
 

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genetic

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Again, who here said the new unit was a bad idea?
Oh so sorry.... You said giving them high performance cars is a bad idea and they should rather have Nissan Sentra's.

Why would a rapid response unit need slow cars? Lets give the Flying Squad Polo Vivo's instead.
 

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Nobody as far as I recall.

Just questioning whether funds were spent judiciously.
Do you live in Cape Town?

Do you know what crisis Cape Town has with gang violence?

The Western Cape government has even been calling for the Army to be deployed for years.
 

The_Mowgs

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Oh so sorry.... You said giving them high performance cars is a bad idea and they should rather have Nissan Sentra's.

Why would a rapid response unit need slow cars? Lets give the Flying Squad Polo Vivo's instead.
So because I said they should rather be driving Nissan Sentra's and Civic (which would fit in much better in those areas) you came to the conclusion that I was against this unit?

Why do you think those 2 security guards were shot dead in the security bakkie? Because the criminals knew exactly who they were and what they had on them.

A unit like this is supposed to strike without the criminals seeing them approach. Now whenever a gangster or drug dealer sees a clean white BMX 1 series with dark rims and a sunroof approaching the area they will run and alert others.

I am waiting for your next conclusion of this response...
 

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A unit like this is supposed to strike without the criminals seeing them approach. Now whenever a gangster or drug dealer sees a clean white BMX 1 series with dark rims and a sunroof approaching the area they will run and alert others.

I am waiting for your next conclusion of this response...
If they need to go undercover for a sting, then they'll go undercover.

This is a specialised unit - the same as the Hawks, STF, Flying Squad, SIU etc. which all have marked vehicles. They don't police the streets like the rest of the plebs, but rather target known individuals or high-profile cases.

Specialised unit... get it?
 

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If they need to go undercover for a sting, then they'll go undercover.

This is a specialised unit - the same as the Hawks, STF, Flying Squad, SIU etc. which all have marked vehicles. They don't police the streets like the rest of the plebs, but rather target known individuals or high-profile cases.

Specialised unit... get it?
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Do you live in Cape Town?

Do you know what crisis Cape Town has with gang violence?

The Western Cape government has even been calling for the Army to be deployed for years.

Lived in Cape Town for 60 years, so yes I know about it.

I'm just not sure 50 BMWs driving 'anonymously' around the Flats is going to be the solution.
 

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So because I said they should rather be driving Nissan Sentra's and Civic (which would fit in much better in those areas) you came to the conclusion that I was against this unit?

Why do you think those 2 security guards were shot dead in the security bakkie? Because the criminals knew exactly who they were and what they had on them.

A unit like this is supposed to strike without the criminals seeing them approach. Now whenever a gangster or drug dealer sees a clean white BMX 1 series with dark rims and a sunroof approaching the area they will run and alert others.

I am waiting for your next conclusion of this response...
I totally disagree with you on the killed security guards part.
They were shot because they were easy targets, parked, reading a magazine and relaxed while on duty.
All of those will get you killed in the police and armed response industry.
 
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