Anti-gay pastor served for allegedly defying court ruling: ‘I will come out and preach the same message’

[rambo919]

Free to practice religion not free to advocate hate speech.

"hate speech" is a propaganda term only ever applied to non-leftists, it's nebulousity makes it meaningless

 

[konfab]

Fair is fair, just be consistent. If a religious preacher can advocate for criminalization and that gays be dealt with like in Nigeria, then surely we should be able to do the same for your church of closeted and cloistered pedophiles too?
Equality before the law & all that.

Of course they can advocate for it. Doesn't mean that people should listen to them.

 

[Cray]

"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."

Gotta love Leviticus...

 

[konfab]

Despite you being religious, you seem good. And it is heartening to know that you believe allah & vishnu. That doesn't happen that often

 

[daveza]

"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."

So lesbians are okay then,

 

[rambo919]

Don't forget, religion always leads directly to terrorism, no one fights wars for any other reason, you have to be crazy or stupid to be religious, the flying spegetti monster is real, aliens created us millions of years ago, etc.

 

[EADC]

"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."

Yeah when they start living biblically for everything not just what they pick and choose then they can throw that around.

 

[rambo919]

So lesbians are okay then,

Does the Bible talk about lesbianism? What does the Bible say about being a lesbian?

Does the Bible talk about lesbianism? What does the Bible say about being a lesbian? Is lesbianism sinful?

www.compellingtruth.org

Actually Paul mentions woman too for those looking for loopholes.

 

[konfab]

interesting. Are there really any christians on myBB who consider being gay is abomination (as the bible says) ?

Do you consider it to be an abomination?

 

[konfab]

Yeah when they start living biblically for everything not just what they pick and choose then you can throwing that around.

It's almost as if there is a large body of theological work that has adapted the religion with the time. I mean wouldn't it just be so much better if the world's religions behaved like ISIS.

For example, protestantism basically dictates that people and churches are free to pick their own interpretations of the bible. And that is how they choose to live. It isn't any different from some leftist who gets all their moral guidance from late night comedians on cable TV.

And nevertheless, the creation of a secular state has rendered all these discussions moot about what the opinion is of book X.

 

[Nerfherder]

Anti-gay pastor served for allegedly defying court ruling: ‘I will come out and preach the same message’

A Cape Town pastor, who may find himself behind bars for defying a court order barring him from making anti-gay comments, accused the SA Human Rights Commission of trying to make an example of him.

www.news24.com

R100 bucks says this guy touches kids.

 

[rambo919]

It's almost as if there is a large body of theological work that adapted the religion with the time. I mean wouldn't it just be so much better if the world's religions behaved like ISIS.

Yeah its almost as if someone somewhere saw that society was advancing beyond barbarian level and helped them back to the meaning of the original orders instead of just the literal meaning.....

 

[EADC]

It's almost as if there is a large body of theological work that adapted the religion with the time. I mean wouldn't it just be so much better if the world's religions behaved like ISIS.

That's the issue most religions have moved with the times but then a small subset will pick and choose what they want to be militant about.

 

[daveza]

Does the Bible talk about lesbianism? What does the Bible say about being a lesbian?

Does the Bible talk about lesbianism? What does the Bible say about being a lesbian? Is lesbianism sinful?

www.compellingtruth.org

Actually Paul mentions woman too for those looking for loopholes.

Once again it's all in the translation and interpretation.

Here's a contrary view.

In Romans 1:26-27 what are "unnatural" relations or "use beyond nature"?

Romans 1:26-27 reads: For this reason God gave them over to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged the natural sexual relations for unnatural ones, and likewise the men also abando...

hermeneutics.stackexchange.com

The early church fathers Clement of Alexandria, Athanasius, and Augustine all understood the unnatural act as being non-coital intercourse, that is, oral or anal sex.[n.4] They understood ‘natural use of the female’ in v.27 as referring to penile/vaginal intercourse, and they read that back, ‘likewise’, into v.26b: the females exchanged natural, coital intercourse (with men) for unnatural, non-coital intercourse (with men); and the males, in the same way, exchanged natural, coital intercourse with women for non-coital intercourse with other men.

By this reading only the male exchange was homosexual – the church fathers did not read ‘homosexual’ back into the previous verse but ‘non-coital intercourse’. James Olthuis notes, “Paul does not say ‘women with women’ (as he says ‘men with men’)” in the next verse.[n.5] This is critical because without a specific indication that the females exchanged male for female sex partners, Paul’s original audience would not have understood this thin phrase as referring to lesbianism. There is no example in antiquity in which female homosexuality is described as counterpart to male homosexuality (as some suggest here). Lesbianism was seldom mentioned in ancient literature, and it wasn’t even prohibited in the Hebrew Bible or rabbinic tradition. Introducing a new idea here, contrary to cultural expectation, would not have served Paul’s rhetorical purpose. James Miller concludes, “a homosexual reading of verse 26 is in no way warranted. The obvious partner for the woman in verse 26 is male and the relationship is heterosexual.”

 

[surface]

Do you consider it to be an abomination?

No.

 

[RedViking]

A homosexual lifestyle is sin according to the scriptures. Doesn't give you the right the attack and hate homosexuals and make up your own facts to support you hatred. According to the sensationalist media he said:

“Why should we be tolerant of their criminal lifestyle? Ninety-nine percent of paedophiles stem from homosexuality.
“I'm saying so because it is proven that 99% of the paedophiles have a homosexual background. They are blaming their previous lifestyle on what happened. Go and read up on it.”

However if it is preached in church homosexuality is a sin and you don't like it. Leave.

Also why only target and show hatred towards one 'type of sinner'?

 

[surface]

That's the issue most religions have moved with the times but then a small subset will pick and choose what they want to be militant about.

You mean people that pretend to follow the religions moved on with times. Scriptures can't change.

 

[SAguy]

That's in contradiction to gods word.

God's word as you understand it, what about how others understand it.
If we started taking everything said in the bible about certain laws literally and applying them to today's time, we'd be in a heap of trouble.

 

[SAguy]

"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."

So all Christians should live their lives according to Leviticus then? That's a bit silly don't you think

 

[ponder]

God's word as you understand it, what about how others understand it.
If we started taking everything said in the bible about certain laws literally and applying them to today's time, we'd be in a heap of trouble.

Which comes down to the hypocritical cherry picking.