Anti-Semitism is really woke these days

Puk

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Even after extensive reading, I still can't figure out why some people don't like Jewish people. What did they do to deserve such hate over the years? There have been Jews in South Africa for centuries and we never had problems. Is it jealousy because they're disciplined and good with business? Seriously, what is it that causes someone to be antisemitic (question not applicable to Palestinians)?
 

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Even after extensive reading, I still can't figure out why some people don't like Jewish people. What did they do to deserve such hate over the years? There have been Jews in South Africa for centuries and we never had problems. Is it jealousy because they're disciplined and good with business? Seriously, what is it that causes someone to be antisemitic (question not applicable to Palestinians)?
Jealousy over the fact that Jews are gods chosen people.
 

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Jealousy over the fact that Jews are gods chosen people.
I'd say they're just an easy scapegoat.
And throughout history, it's almost always been okay to pick on Jews with no repercussions (other than a couple decades after WWII)
 

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I'd say they're just an easy scapegoat.
And throughout history, it's almost always been okay to pick on Jews with no repercussions (other than a couple decades after WWII)
Maybe. But, surely, there are many other "easy scapegoats" in the world to pick on. There's simply no excuse.
 

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Maybe. But, surely, there are many other "easy scapegoats" in the world to pick on. There's simply no excuse.
Who needs an excuse? Just pick a minority with more possessions than the majority (but not necessarily more than the elite of the majority), then after you have fooled the majority into believing the lies... kill, rape and loot.

Don't try to moralize everything that's a misdirection.
 

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Who needs an excuse? Just pick a minority with more possessions than the majority (but not necessarily more than the elite of the majority), then after you have fooled the majority into believing the lies... kill, rape and loot.

Don't try to moralize everything that's a misdirection.
That sounds so eerily simmilar to something happening more and more in SA.
 

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Even after extensive reading, I still can't figure out why some people don't like Jewish people. What did they do to deserve such hate over the years? There have been Jews in South Africa for centuries and we never had problems. Is it jealousy because they're disciplined and good with business? Seriously, what is it that causes someone to be antisemitic (question not applicable to Palestinians)?
Yeah, jealousy is probably a big factor. But also stupid and no reason for it. Two big factors in their success are:
1) Very well orchestrated tribalism (good for them, they look after their own people in business).
2) The Talmud. If fou want to learn from their success (because jealousy makes you an idiot) then just go to any Rabbi (or any Jew that it relatively well) and ask him to talk about the Talmud. There is a lot of wisdom that helps Jews succeed.
 

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The one side has the capability to move forward, the other not, this creates a huge potential difference.
 

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Yeah, jealousy is probably a big factor. But also stupid and no reason for it. Two big factors in their success are:
1) Very well orchestrated tribalism (good for them, they look after their own people in business).
2) The Talmud. If fou want to learn from their success (because jealousy makes you an idiot) then just go to any Rabbi (or any Jew that it relatively well) and ask him to talk about the Talmud. There is a lot of wisdom that helps Jews succeed.
Jealousy sometimes but sometimes communities of Jews (like any other kind of people) do things that make other people agitated. Nothing happens in a vacuum.

The Talmud also contains..... questionable rants and ravings and would do well with a good mass edit.
 

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Another female Jewish MP has left the Labour party, apparently bullied out of the movement she has worked in for decades. Louise Ellman, MP for Liverpool Riverside, announced in a letter last night that she ‘cannot advocate a government led by Jeremy Corbyn’ because he ‘is not fit to be Prime Minister’. She complains that ‘anti-Semitism has become mainstream in the Labour Party’ and that the leader ‘has attracted the support of too many anti-Semites’.


It is a damning letter, and one that has widely been tweeted by the colleagues Ellman has left behind as proof that something needs to change in the party. The problem is that we’ve seen this before: the same MPs made the same sort of comments when Luciana Berger quit earlier this year. Ellman’s departure shows that their pleas fell on deaf ears. She had been facing trigger ballots with her local party, and local members had tabled a no-confidence vote in her on Yom Kippur.
 

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I am a young, gay, left-wing Jew. Yet I am called an “apartheid-enabler,” a “baby killer” and a “colonial apologist.”

I have never done 23-and-me, nor have I “ancestry.com’d” myself. It’s never felt necessary. My family’s Eastern European Jewish heritage was something we lived to honor, including in our politics.

Like so many others, my family came to this country escaping discrimination in the Old Country and facing injustice in the New: abusive labor conditions; university quotas; social exclusion when we tried to climb the ladder of the American dream. Given our history in this country — and our involvement in so many social justice movements — it shouldn’t be a surprise that so many young Jews, myself included, can’t imagine being anything other than political progressives. As a gay abortion rights advocate and environmentalist, my place in such circles has always been welcomed and accepted.

Well, until now.

As a sophomore at George Washington University, whose student government last year passed the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions proposal, I now find myself pushed to the fringes of a movement I thought I was at the heart of, marginalized as someone suspicious at best and oppressive at worst. This is because I am a Zionist. It is because I, like 95 percent of American Jews, support Israel.

Before I arrived on campus, I could proudly say that I was both a strong progressive and a Zionist. I didn’t think there was a conflict between those two ideas. In fact, I understood them as being in sync, given that progressives have long championed the liberation movements of downtrodden minorities. I viewed — and still view — the establishment of the state of Israel as a fundamentally just cause: the most persecuted people in human history finally gaining the right of self-determination after centuries of displacement, intimidation, violence and genocide. For me, this remains true even as I oppose the occupation of the West Bank. It is my Zionism that informs my view that the Palestinian people also have the right to their own state.

But my view is not at all shared by the progressive activist crowd I encountered on campus. They have made it abundantly clear to me and other Jews on campus that any form of Zionism — even my own liberal variant, which criticizes various policies of Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, and seeks a just two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict — is a political nonstarter. For this group at my school, and similar groups on campuses and cities around the country, Zionism itself is, to parrot the Soviet propaganda of several decades ago, racist. And anybody who so dares to utter the words “right to exist” is undeniably a proponent of racism.

Given that almost all American Jews identify as “pro-Israel,” even as the majority of us are also critical of Israeli government policy, this intolerance affects huge numbers of young American Jews. I am one of them.

At many American universities, mine included, it is now normal for student organizations to freely call Israel an imperialist power and an outpost of white colonialism with little pushback or discussion — never mind that more than half of Israel’s population consists of Israeli Jews from the Middle East and North Africa, and that the country boasts a 20 percent Arab minority. The word “apartheid” is thrown around without hesitation. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is repeatedly dragged into discussions ranging anywhere from L.G.B.T.Q. equality (where to mention Israel’s vastly better record on gay rights compared with that of any other country in the Middle East is branded “pinkwashing”), to health care to criminal justice reform.

At a recent political club meeting I attended, Zionism was described by leadership as a “transnational project,” an anti-Semitic trope that characterizes the desire for a Jewish state as a bid for global domination by the Jewish people. The organization went on to say that Zionism should not be “normalized.” Later, when I advised a member to add more Jewish voices to the organization’s leadership as a means of adding more nuance to their platform, I was assured that anti-Zionist Jews were already a part of the club and thus my concerns of anti-Semitism were baseless.
 

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Plaid Cymru has suspended a party member included in its party election broadcast over allegations of anti-Semitism.

The party said it will conduct an investigation into historical social media comments made by Sahar Al-Faifi.

Ms Al-Faifi appeared in Plaid Cymru's party political broadcast for the general election, which aired on BBC Wales, ITV Wales and S4C on Thursday.

The party said it will not tolerate anti-Semitism or racism "in any form".

Ms Al-Faifa has been asked to comment on the posts, which were deleted some time ago.
 
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