Any ANC supporters on this forum?

[EtienneK]

Or in other words: Only let educated people vote.

 

[brixton tower]

That is so ignorant a view .... can you back it up with facts? No?

Almost a year ago an NP throwback and current DA councillor Frank Martin caused a stir in Cape Town when he tried to stoke the flames of racism over the allocation of housing. Even though Zille is principled, the same can't be said for people in her party.

I seem to remember that the NP was dissolved into the ANC. The NP and the DP had a massive culture clash, which is why they never worked together.



Historically too, the DP was always anti-apartheid.

I'm not quite sure on what you base your argument on. AFAICS, most people who come up with this argument are black, and use it as an excuse to justify a racist viewpoint.

Those members of the NP joined the ANC were career politicians with no prospect of being employed in the REAL world and for them it was simply a matter of expediency...nothing tells me they were guided by their convictions. But then again that's the nature of politics.

lol - the clang of machine gun chants must be affecting your thought processes.

I'm only trying to be honest, I'm trying very hard to convince JZ to retire his AK one last time

You.Are.A.Dumbass.

PLEASE and I mean PLEASE quote me once when she said that, or any DA members (and there are black DA members) said that.

Refer to my response to Mephisto Helix.

 

[icyrus]

So people will continue to vote for the ANC because it is a left-wing black party and also because blacks perceive the ANC as a good party since it liberated them, it doesn't matter to blacks if Malema is insinuating violence or Zuma is a criminal or a rapist, that doesn't matter.

That is not democracy and will lead down the same road that the people of Zimbabwe have already taken.

Good luck with that.

 

[adelp]

Or in other words: Only let educated people vote.

Nevermind the education!!! In our country that is worth 0 and can be bought.

Let the people paying taxes get the votes and the more tax you pay the more votes you get.

I mean it's the tax payers money they are spending.

 

[mo_mia]

Yep, 'cos that is democracy hey adelp?

 

[brixton tower]

Nevermind the education!!! In our country that is worth 0 and can be bought.

Let the people paying taxes get the votes and the more tax you pay the more votes you get.

I mean it's the tax payers money they are spending.

Will this include citizens who pay VAT?

 

[icyrus]

Nevermind the education!!! In our country that is worth 0 and can be bought.

Let the people paying taxes get the votes and the more tax you pay the more votes you get.

I mean it's the tax payers money they are spending.

That would be an even bigger mess than what we have now.

 

[siphox]

Do I have to reply to this?
Not only is it stupid, theres no paragrpahs

You cant reply to it because your brain cant see logic. It cant digest information, if you want easy reading go grab a nursery rhyme.

 

[siphox]

The ANC did not free anybody. The MK was militarily insignificant and as long as the Cold War remained the West would have provided tacid support for the NP regime. The NP chose to hand over power willingly once the West clamped down on the them following the collapse of the Soviet Union and the disappearance of Soviet supported threats to
Western interests in South Africa. If anything, Gorbachev freed the non-whites in
South Africa, as well as the actions of the other players in the anti-Soviet struggle,
Mikhail Gorbachev, Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, John Paul II, Boris Yeltsin, various European freedom movements eg
Solidarity and so on all contributed to an ultimate dismantling of apartheid in SA. However the fall of the Soviet Union, delivered by Mikhail Sergeyevich was
the key to tougher sanctions and messaging to PW Botha and FW De Klerk to get rid of apartheid.[/QUOTE

Who called for those sanction? The NP, I doubt it.
The ANC went around the wolrd and avdertised the injustice of apartheid to the world and the world responded positively.
In south afriac people boycotted, toy-toyed, went on strike, threw boms at power lines and sasol and other targets. we fought in courts, in prison and in the streets. We fough through our jail sentances and with our blood. It is us blacks that freed ourselves, we gave the world a catalsyed to cat. we got people like PW botha to start negiating with Mandaela so that things can change, we got Deklerk to free mandela and all other political prisoners. we fought everywhere.
The NP wanted to keep us oppressed. we beat them ten nil.

 

[DeadCore]

i don't trust the ANC very very very bad people so no i am not an ANC seporter

 

[daveza]

Siphox, you may have a point but it would be given more respect if you simply used a spellchecker.

For the record my opinion is that the US didn't care about apartheid except that it was deemed a barrier to communism.

The ANC in exile was the driving force in more enlightened countries.

 

[Mila]

Yep, 'cos that is democracy hey adelp?

And only letting educated people vote is..? If everybody paid their taxes it would be....

And do you really believe this is a democracy?

 

[adelp]

Siphox, you may have a point but it would be given more respect if you simply used a spellchecker.

For the record my opinion is that the US didn't care about apartheid except that it was deemed a barrier to communism.

The ANC in exile was the driving force in more enlightened countries.

Me and you can agree on something....


Who called for those sanction? The NP, I doubt it.
The ANC went around the wolrd and avdertised the injustice of apartheid to the world and the world responded positively.
In south afriac people boycotted, toy-toyed, went on strike, threw boms at power lines and sasol and other targets. we fought in courts, in prison and in the streets. We fough through our jail sentances and with our blood. It is us blacks that freed ourselves, we gave the world a catalsyed to cat. we got people like PW botha to start negiating with Mandaela so that things can change, we got Deklerk to free mandela and all other political prisoners. we fought everywhere.
The NP wanted to keep us oppressed. we beat them ten nil.

And there i thought it was we gave it up for the world cup

 

[daveza]

As defined yes, we live in a democracy.

de⋅moc⋅ra⋅cy 

–noun, plural -cies. 1. government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.

The USA as an example has a government which is not elected by a simple majority for or against.

But it is still a democracy.

 

[daveza]

Me and you can agree on something....

I've even been known to agree with alanf85 and Marine1 .

 

[nelle]

Do Taxi's owners pay tax ? Do they keep books, can these be audited?

 

[EtienneK]

And only letting educated people vote is..?

I really think that you have to at least pass a simple politics and history test before you are able to vote.

 

[adelp]

As defined yes, we live in a democracy.



The USA as an example has a government which is not elected by a simple majority for or against.

But it is still a democracy.

Agreed...

Oke i vote for a party not a person so i have no say in who the president will be or are .... get what i'm asking? (serious question)

 

[Bismuth]

WALL OF TEXT!

Ahhhhhhhhh, my eyes are bleeding!

Dude, don't they have "Enter" keys and punctuation on the keyboards at ANC HQ?.

You cant reply to it because your brain cant see logic. It cant digest information, if you want easy reading go grab a nursery rhyme.

It's got bugger all to do with "easy reading", just basic use of paragraphs and punctuation that are not only used in nursery rhymes, believe it or not. Read other posts on this forum and others, you might be suprised to find that the majority of posters tend to use paragraphs and the like.

B

 

[daveza]

Mugabe is apparently the most educated leader in the world.

He qualified as a teacher, but left to study at Fort Hare in South Africa graduating in 1951 while meeting contemporaries such as Julius Nyerere, Herbert Chitepo, Robert Sobukwe and Kenneth Kaunda. He then studied at the University of Oxford in 1952, Salisbury (1953), Gwelo (1954), and Tanzania (1955–1957). Originally graduating with a Bachelor of Arts degree from the University of Fort Hare in 1951, Mugabe subsequently earned six further degrees through distance learning including a Bachelor of Administration and Bachelor of Education from the University of South Africa and a Bachelor of Science, Bachelor of Laws, Master of Science, and Master of Laws, all from the University of London External Programme.[23] The two Law degrees were taken whilst he was in prison, during the time that the Master of Science degree was taken during his premiership of Zimbabwe.[24]

So intellect is not a good yardstick