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alloytoo said:
You only consider them skewed if you don't consider infants people. Do you not consider infants people? Must approve of abortion then? (or perhaps fetus's are people but not dying children don't qualify)
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It's not even true that they were skewed by infant mortality. The 40s genuinely was old age, and only the exceptional made it to 50 or more.

That's called natural selection.
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In fact the logical end of that line of thinking is not to have medical treatment at all.
 
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Did you even read what you wrote properly?! "prophylaxis"!!!
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Or do you mean anaphylaxis - a term coined while developing vaccines and seeing the terrible effects they caused...


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Did you even read that properly? It confirms what I said. It lists allergy as a side effect. Allergies usually present in the form of rashes or prophylaxis. Those are not the reactions I am talking about. In addition to allergy it also lists other side effects like coughing and sore throat. These are the exact same symptoms as flu itself and it isn't surprising considering the vaccine tricks the body into fighting the virus without a live version being present.


Perhaps I should have worded it better. In medicine there is such a thing as causes. While the flu vaccine doesn't supply a replicating flu virus it can cause a virus your body is successfully able to fight otherwise to replicate and cause disease. This is a documented phenomenon. People who have infection are more susceptible to secondary infections because their immune system is taxed. The vaccine uses exactly the same system to accomplish immunity so it also taxes your immune system and exposes you to risk of other infections.
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OK, that youtube video gave me autism.

Is anything Gates said wrong? We have too many people and the poorest of the poor have too many more children. I think a sterility vaccine, if it works and is safe, would be worthy of a Nobel prize.
 
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Large fonts and double post, is that supposed to make your argument more convincing?
 
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OK, just googling the very first study in your post:
Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism -

"They looked at data from the National Health Interview Studies, and looked at autism and hepatitis B vaccination. They used surveys from 1997 to 2002, with children aged from 3 to 17.
The autism group had 33 kids total. Of these, 9 of 31 (29%) were given the HepB vaccine. Compare this to 1,258 of 7,455 (17%) of the non-autism group who were given the HepB.
9 out of 31.

Take for example kids aged 17 in the 1997 survey. When were they born? That’s right, 1980.

When was the Hepatitis B vaccine introduced? 1991. According to Mr. Kirby himself, the HepB vaccine didn’t get fully implemented until about 1996."

So...they claim these kids got autism from a vaccine that most of them never even got. I stopped reading after number 1.
 
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So you assume that vaccines are only applied at age zero... wow.


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OK, just googling the very first study in your post:
Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism -

"They looked at data from the National Health Interview Studies, and looked at autism and hepatitis B vaccination. They used surveys from 1997 to 2002, with children aged from 3 to 17.
The autism group had 33 kids total. Of these, 9 of 31 (29%) were given the HepB vaccine. Compare this to 1,258 of 7,455 (17%) of the non-autism group who were given the HepB.
9 out of 31.

Take for example kids aged 17 in the 1997 survey. When were they born? That’s right, 1980.

When was the Hepatitis B vaccine introduced? 1991. According to Mr. Kirby himself, the HepB vaccine didn’t get fully implemented until about 1996."

So...they claim these kids got autism from a vaccine that most of them never even got. I stopped reading after number 1.
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PhleeBag said:
So you assume that vaccines are only applied at age zero... wow.
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The older kids in that study were born up to 11 years before the vaccine was even started to be rolled out. The HepB vaccine is given at birth and then another a few months later. So yes, in this case they are applied at age zero.
 
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So...they claim these kids got autism from a vaccine that most of them never even got. I stopped reading after number 1.
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Just shows how dangerous these vaccines are, they can cause autism even if you never received the vaccine.
 
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Nope. Its just there are some many posting pro vax arguments that this "discussion" seems to be totally one-sided and not actually a
discussion.
There is so much noise from the pro vaxxers that you cannot even see the articles covering the other side as they just get swallowed up with a one sided opinion.

So I have to throw out more crumbs to feed the trolls and keep the discussion going and hopefully make it through the noise.


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Are you Googling Bill+Gates+Vaccines or something?
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Swa said:
In medicine there is such a thing as causes. While the flu vaccine doesn't supply a replicating flu virus it can cause a virus your body is successfully able to fight otherwise to replicate and cause disease. This is a documented phenomenon.
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Hey Swa instead of posting how arrogant I am and misunderstanding everything you mention, why don't you just post the documented cases that stipulate that the vaccines can cause viruses in your body, then that will put your point across.


Swa said:
If could be any infection and doesn't have to be related to the vaccine. Secondary infection is a real recognised phenomenon.
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Again I asked for the documents that point to the fact that Vaccines can give you secondary infections (or even first infections), so I can peruse the information and see if want you are saying is actually factual or just what you assume to be correct

show me your proof brother!!
 
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Nope. Its just there are some many posting pro vax arguments that this "discussion" seems to be totally one-sided and not actually a
discussion.
There is so much noise from the pro vaxxers that you cannot even see the articles covering the other side as they just get swallowed up with a one sided opinion.

So I have to throw out more crumbs to feed the trolls and keep the discussion going and hopefully make it through the noise.
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Articles like your 20 studies...where the very first one is shown to be at best extremely flawed? Do you even read what you post properly? Or do even the most basic of checks on the things you think are facts? I'm guessing not.
 
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