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PhleeBag

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" 2) you have had your HPV shots already
Have done yes"

CRAP!

post the picture of you getting it or your vaccine schedule booklet.

You are but no that isn't a reason



Have done yes


I've probably got the time, I could just do more productive things with it


No I don't believe what I'm saying. The evidence supports overwhelmingly what I've been saying and so I have a reasonable level of confidence in what I'm saying. Much like I don't believe the sun is going to rise in the East tomorrow, evidence simply suggests that it is highly likely that it will do so. I wouldn't expect you to understand the difference though, scientific literacy doesn't seem to be your strongest trait.



Not at all. Seriously did you even read my posts? Not a single thing you posted is what I've said.


You said you would pay for it


They're big companies sure but how wealthy they are is irrelevant.



Yea that was my response when I realised that not a single thing you said is even remotely connected to what I've said. I honestly don't think you've read any of my posts. That demonstrates a total lack of respect for your fellow man. I at least give you that basic level of respect. You post schit, but if I'm going to respond I make sure I've actually read that schit so I know what I'm responding to.
 

porchrat

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so none of you rabid pro vaxxers are willing to be part of a safe trial to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that vaccines are safe?
I haven't seen anybody suggest anything like that Phlee. I'd be keen on getting involved in something like that but what you've suggested is the clinical trials equivalent of a child playing house (as I've pointed out about 4 times already only to be ignored repeatedly by you).

EDIT: In fact you know what scratch that. I actually wouldn't be interested because the actual epidemiological evidence is ignored by you so even if the trial were of any significance you'd still ignore it. Nevermind. Came to my senses. Phew, almost offered to waste my time for an idiot like you.
 

ISP cash cow

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I am looking for sponsors for this test.

No travel costs, it will be held at a clinic closest to you.

please tell me WHO in your family has had the HPV (x3) vaccine?

I had all my vaccines and so did all my children...

ok so you looking for people to become your subjects in your little science experiment but they have to:

1.) lay the costs down themselves
2.) get vaccinated again when they have been vaccinated already.
3.) you will not be paying for the costs for them to actually go to the clinic and get this done.
4.) calling them chicken for not willing to stand for what they believe in although they have been vaccinated before.
5.) you want them to start a thread and monitor their own progress on your behalf, and if things don't go according to plan you will probably just say that they didn't report it all or they lied (conspiracy theory)

Now we know how the anti-vacs conduct their scientific experiments. :whistling:
 

PhleeBag

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no, we will do it properly.
I have contacts in all sphere's: doctors, MRC researchers, medical sisters to inject, lawyers to keep track of all events...

I haven't seen anybody suggest anything like that Phlee. I'd be keen on getting involved in something like that but what you've suggested is the clinical trials equivalent of a child playing house (as I've pointed out about 4 times already only to be ignored repeatedly by you).

EDIT: In fact you know what scratch that. I actually wouldn't be interested because the actual epidemiological evidence is ignored by you so even if the trial were of any significance you'd still ignore it. Nevermind. Came to my senses. Phew, almost offered to waste my time for an idiot like you.
 

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so none of you rabid pro vaxxers are willing to be part of a safe trial to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that vaccines are safe?
Every single one of us in this thread, with possibly you as an exception, are proof that vaccines are safe for the majority.
Or are you claiming that vaccines are 100% risk-free? Because nobody has ever claimed that.
There are a tiny minority that ....
actually.....this is pointless.

You ignore any and all points put to you. When faults are pointed out in comments that you have made, you ignore them.
This vaccination expirement you want us to do is retarded. And I mean retarded as in only someone with brain-damage would think this would prove anything. Having 4 people getting vaccinated again, when thousands are vaccinated every single day in SA, and we have the bloody documentation to go with it....it's just stupid.

Unless you actually discuss ANYTHING then I have to assume that you are a troll. So good day to you, enjoy your trolling.
 

PhleeBag

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ouch... cant read can we?

ok so you looking for people to become your subjects in your little science experiment but they have to:

1.) lay the costs down themselves
2.) get vaccinated again when they have been vaccinated already.
3.) you will not be paying for the costs for them to actually go to the clinic and get this done.
4.) calling them chicken for not willing to stand for what they believe in although they have been vaccinated before.
5.) you want them to start a thread and monitor their own progress on your behalf, and if things don't go according to plan you will probably just say that they didn't report it all or they lied (conspiracy theory)

Now we know how the anti-vacs conduct their scientific experiments. :whistling:
 

porchrat

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ok so you looking for people to become your subjects in your little science experiment but they have to:
Let's not use that term too liberally here. We don't want to water it down. What he proposes is not science. It is what ignorant anti-vaxxers think science is.
 
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porchrat

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no, we will do it properly.
I have contacts in all sphere's: doctors, MRC researchers, medical sisters to inject, lawyers to keep track of all events...
OK for the umpteenth time Phlee this research has ALREADY BEEN DONE ON A FAR LARGER SCALE THAN ANYTHING YOU COULD POSSIBLY ORGANISE HERE AND THOSE RESULTS HAVE FAILED TO CONVINCE YOU. (obviously, because you can't see beyond your own personal experiences with vaccines, you're irrationally biased)

Knowing this, why should anyone bother to waste their time on this farce that you in your ignorance consider to be good science?
 
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porchrat

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sorry even with my two eyes I cannot see the future - My post was above yours fool.:erm:

Organise it and let me know, I will do it.

however all costs will be for you, not for me
It is a waste of time. You will experience no ill effects, receive no new additional immunity from the vaccines and he will still be an anti-vaxxer nut at the end of it.
 

PhleeBag

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no. the test is twofold
1) are YOU willing to stand by what you believe!?
2) we do not have to assume that stats fiddling was done to skew results - it is your own test with your own data.


OK for the umpteenth time Phlee this research has ALREADY BEEN DONE ON A FAR LARGER SCALE THAN ANYTHING YOU COULD POSSIBLY ORGANISE HERE AND THOSE RESULTS HAVE FAILED TO CONVINCE YOU.

Knowing this, why should anyone bother to waste their time on this farce that you in your ignorance consider to be good science?
 

Pox

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OK for the umpteenth time Phlee this research has ALREADY BEEN DONE ON A FAR LARGER SCALE THAN ANYTHING YOU COULD POSSIBLY ORGANISE HERE AND THOSE RESULTS HAVE FAILED TO CONVINCE YOU.

Knowing this, why should anyone bother to waste their time on this farce that you in your ignorance consider to be good science?

Going to try for a direct analogy here:

PhleeBag believes that cars can kill you. Which is correct. But he also wants nobody to drive cars at all, because of the chance they could kill you.
We can point to the decades of road-travel and safety records, but this will all be ignored because he had an accident 5 years ago.
Now to prove that cars will kill you he wants us to drive to work again, this time with dashcams.
The fact that we all drive to work already, some of us for decades, will not convince him otherwise that cars will absolutely kill you and we should all walk.
 

PhleeBag

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read what you quoted in your post:
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Quote Originally Posted by PhleeBag View Post
I am looking for sponsors for this test.

No travel costs, it will be held at a clinic closest to you.
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no need to look into the future just at what you are quoting.

+ on being willing to do this.
So far we have one person.

ok so you looking for people to become your subjects in your little science experiment but they have to:

1.) lay the costs down themselves
2.) get vaccinated again when they have been vaccinated already.
3.) you will not be paying for the costs for them to actually go to the clinic and get this done.
4.) calling them chicken for not willing to stand for what they believe in although they have been vaccinated before.
5.) you want them to start a thread and monitor their own progress on your behalf, and if things don't go according to plan you will probably just say that they didn't report it all or they lied (conspiracy theory)

Now we know how the anti-vacs conduct their scientific experiments. :whistling:
 

PhleeBag

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wrong assumption

"assume makes an ASS out of U and ME" dont assume you know what I believe.

Going to try for a direct analogy here:

PhleeBag believes that cars can kill you. Which is correct. But he also wants nobody to drive cars at all, because of the chance they could kill you.
We can point to the decades of road-travel and safety records, but this will all be ignored because he had an accident 5 years ago.
Now to prove that cars will kill you he wants us to drive to work again, this time with dashcams.
The fact that we all drive to work already, some of us for decades, will not convince him otherwise that cars will absolutely kill you and we should all walk.
 

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no. the test is twofold
1) are YOU willing to stand by what you believe!?
2) we do not have to assume that stats fiddling was done to skew results - it is your own test with your own data.

1.) I have just pointed out I am willing to stand by what I believe in by getting vaccinated AGAIN after I have been vaccinated before.
2.) I am not going to waste my time and effort on keeping a log of results and symptoms as I already believe that I will have none and it is for you to prove that I am going to have adverse reactions to all these vaccines and no it is not my own test with data - it is in essence your study. It is your "test of faith" to the pro vacs and I am willing to stand by what I believe about vaccines.

So start your thread, get your wallet out and organise a time and date for me to get the vaccinations.
 

porchrat

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no. the test is twofold
1) are YOU willing to stand by what you believe!?
(A) Nope it wouldn't prove this. I've already had all these vaccinations and not all of them were childhood. I've clearly made my own choices about it.

(B) As mentioned before it isn't belief (I knew you wouldn't understand it, lol at your lack of scientific literacy. I called it. :D)


2) we do not have to assume that stats fiddling was done to skew results - it is your own test with your own data.
Oh I see despite there being countless independent institutions performing studies all across the world on these vaccines you're pulling the "It's a conspiracy!" card again. Yea your credibility is iron-clad at this point... not at all an irrational loon :rolleyes:
 

Pox

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wrong assumption

"assume makes an ASS out of U and ME" dont assume you know what I believe.

What? the actual? fack?

I give an analogy using you to illustrate said analogy...and you think that means I have made a wrong assumption?
It's an analogy, the whole farking point is assumptions.

Well done Sir Troll, you managed to raise my blood pressure by the sheer stupidity of your post.
 
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