Any Anti-Vaccine People on MyBB?

[PhleeBag]

still waiting for proof of your HPV shots... this is why I want to SEE you get them...

(A) Nope it wouldn't prove this. I've already had all these vaccinations and not all of them were childhood. I've clearly made my own choices about it.

(B) As mentioned before it isn't belief (I knew you wouldn't understand it, lol at your lack of scientific literacy. I called it. )



Oh I see despite there being countless independent institutions performing studies all across the world on these vaccines you're pulling the "It's a conspiracy!" card again. Yea your credibility is iron-clad at this point... not at all an irrational loon

 

[PhleeBag]

well I must say that raising your blood pressure does give me a smile.
You put words in my mouth...
I believe vaccines are unneeded.
So cars are unneeded also. You have other options. Horse / boat / bus / train / walk / bicycle...
You say vaccines are the only way.
I say no they are not.

I say you are better off with out vaccines: http://www.vaccinedecision.info/articlepic/312.jpg
that is one example. the other is are people I know with kids who are vax'd and those who are not (in the same household) and the distinct difference in their health...

So YES your assumption made an ass out of you.

What? the actual? fack?

I give an analogy using you to illustrate said analogy...and you think that means I have made a wrong assumption?
It's an analogy, the whole farking point is assumptions.

Well done Sir Troll, you managed to raise my blood pressure by the sheer stupidity of your post.

 

[porchrat]

still waiting for proof of your HPV shots... this is why I want to SEE you get them...

OK Phlee I'm going to say this again: A single instance of no negative reactions to a vaccine proves nothing. You've posted the HPV figures yourself, the negative reactions are not significant and that is with samples of tens of millions. If that doesn't convince you then nothing I do will.

 

[PhleeBag]

man up... show us proof

OK Phlee I'm going to say this again: A single instance of no negative reactions to a vaccine proves nothing. You've posted the HPV figures yourself, the negative reactions are not significant and that is with samples of tens of millions. If that doesn't convince you then nothing I do will.

 

[porchrat]

man up... show us proof

and the 8 year old is back... :wtf:

 

[PhleeBag]

you said you have had your HPV shots... which are to prevent cervical cancer.
Do you have a cervix? So you have had your shots for this?? I call BS and thus want proof.
Calling me an 8 year old changes this not.

and the 8 year old is back... :wtf:

 

[Pox]

man up... show us proof

I'd take you up on your offer, but I'm not convinced you are not just a troll and that nothing will ever come of it.
I can understand people against vaccines because of their proven or un-proven health-risks.
But saying that vaccines are unnecessary?
I like not having polio, measels and a whole bunch of other heavily contagious diseases.

Ya, straight to the top of the troll list for you.

 

[porchrat]

you said you have had your HPV shots... which are to prevent cervical cancer.
Do you have a cervix? So you have had your shots for this?? I call BS and thus want proof.
Calling me an 8 year old changes this not.

Men take HPV shots to prevent carrying it and infecting those who haven't had their vaccinations, not to prevent cervical cancer. It isn't done to benefit the man. Did you honestly not know it could be used in that manner? Are you that ignorant on the topic?

My wife is a school teacher. If I recall correctly all the kids in her grade just received Gardasil, even the boys. It isn't just for women (although I agree it is far more important that women receive it).

 

[PhleeBag]

having spent the last many years finding out that you do not need modern medicine for simple normal diseases has been a practical eye-opener for me.
When you discover you can heal your daughter's pink eye in 6 hours with two drops of colloidal silver at litterally no cost and your wife's UTI with 5ml of colloidal silver in 3 hours and nearly no cost and no side effects then you start to ask more questions.
Then you find your wife's pre-cancerous breast condition she had for her life (FBD) is healed as in gone in a few weeks by taking iodine (litterally no cost) then the blinkers start falling off.

for the last 5 years we have had no antibiotics and no drugs for any condition and will heal ANY infection normally in hours with either colloidal silver or iodine.

So I practically KNOW I dont need this and had read thousands of documents on these topics.

I'd take you up on your offer, but I'm not convinced you are not just a troll and that nothing will ever come of it.
I can understand people against vaccines because of their proven or un-proven health-risks.
But saying that vaccines are unnecessary?
I like not having polio, measels and a whole bunch of other heavily contagious diseases.

Ya, straight to the top of the troll list for you.

 

[PhleeBag]

not ignorant on the topic - no, just waiting for you to urgently find that out.
So you are saying you have taken your HPV as you said you had?

Men take HPV shots to prevent carrying it and infecting those who haven't had their vaccinations, not to prevent cervical cancer. It isn't done to benefit the man. Did you honestly not know it could be used in that manner? Are you that ignorant on the topic?

 

[porchrat]

not ignorant on the topic - no, just waiting for you to urgently find that out.

Yea nice try at a save there but I don't buy it. Ignorance abounds with you.

So you are saying you have taken your HPV as you said you had?

I'm fairly certain I have. Although now that I think about it I might be confusing my Hep vaccine with the HPV one. I know my wife had the HPV and in all honesty my memory might have confused the 2.

 

[noxibox]

Colloidal silver? You know that stuff has potentially dangerous side-effects.

 

[PhleeBag]

nope, used it for many years and litres over those years. Adults and tiny kids. very little works better and faster.
The main side effect is your wallet. It stays fatter over time.

Colloidal silver? You know that stuff has potentially dangerous side-effects.

 

[ISP cash cow]

having spent the last many years finding out that you do not need modern medicine for simple normal diseases has been a practical eye-opener for me.
When you discover you can heal your daughter's pink eye in 6 hours with two drops of colloidal silver at litterally no cost and your wife's UTI with 5ml of colloidal silver in 3 hours and nearly no cost and no side effects then you start to ask more questions.
Then you find your wife's pre-cancerous breast condition she had for her life (FBD) is healed as in gone in a few weeks by taking iodine (litterally no cost) then the blinkers start falling off.

for the last 5 years we have had no antibiotics and no drugs for any condition and will heal ANY infection normally in hours with either colloidal silver or iodine.

So I practically KNOW I dont need this and had read thousands of documents on these topics.

OMFG you are delusional, you put colloidal silver onto your daughters eyes but you won't take the 0.05% risk on using vaccines

Hahahahaha

I hear monkshood is good for skin conditions, maybe you should try that next.

 

[porchrat]

OMFG you are delusional, you put colloidal silver onto your daughters eyes but you won't take the 0.05% risk on using vaccines

Hahahahaha

I hear monkshood is good for skin conditions, maybe you should try that next.

While it has some antibacterial properties in vitro there is little evidence that colloidal silver has much of a therapeutic effect on actual human conditions. You're far better off with a modern antibiotic.

Oh also note that the 0.05% is actually pretty high. You get even better figures. Phlee has clearly let his personal experiences with vaccines (not that he can actually prove that the vaccines are what caused his condition BTW) cloud his judgement on the matter. I imagine this is true for many anti-vaxxers.

nope, used it for many years and litres over those years. Adults and tiny kids. very little works better and faster.
The main side effect is your wallet. It stays fatter over time.

Well other than turning blue in the sun and some neurological degeneration.

 

[PhleeBag]

[facepalm] ISP and Rat - your comprehension impresses me no end.
used regularly for years with amazing results for nearly no cost
no side effects, actually experienced by many people I personally know and myself.
This counts for nothing to you?

but something published by the medical industry counts for everything, because they are clever and they know best and they have my best interests at heart! I should never question anything the doctor or pharmaceutical giant says... no...

 

[PhleeBag]

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Studies Prove Without Doubt That Unvaccinated Children Are Far Healthier - See more at: http://www.naturalblaze.com/2014/02/studies-prove-without-doubt-that.html#sthash.pqnrLn3x.dpuf

 

[porchrat]

[facepalm] ISP and Rat - your comprehension impresses me no end.
used regularly for years with amazing results for nearly no cost
no side effects, actually experienced by many people I personally know and myself.
This counts for nothing to you?

but something published by the medical industry counts for everything, because they are clever and they know best and they have my best interests at heart! I should never question anything the doctor or pharmaceutical giant says... no...

Published peer reviewed studies with carefully controlled and readily published methodologies involving large samples count more than the anecdotal experiences of a handful of people?... uh... damn right they do.

You should definitely question what doctors and such say, but you should do so from a rational standpoint. You must ask valid questions. That means for a start not crying "conspiracy theory" or "shill" at the drop of a hat and not citing Naturalnews basically ever. That just makes you look like a paranoid loon with a tinfoil hat.

 

[porchrat]

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Studies Prove Without Doubt That Unvaccinated Children Are Far Healthier - See more at: http://www.naturalblaze.com/2014/02/studies-prove-without-doubt-that.html#sthash.pqnrLn3x.dpuf

The link references not a single actual published study. The only thing even close is some online survey that anybody can take.

Even the referenced texts from the study that isn't referenced says that the samples are very small and so the power of the study to make inferences is limited. I mean it says that in black and white and somehow the authors of the article turn that into "Without a Doubt"? Do you see the half-truths these idiots you reference spout?

Be honest now, did you actually check those sources or did you just read the headline and say "hey hey this supports my idiotic stance driven primarily by emotion stemming from my own personal interpretation of a bad experience coinciding with vaccination that may or may not have had a causal relationship (but I assume it did because of reasons)".

 

[Swa]

You only consider them skewed if you don't consider infants people. Do you not consider infants people? Must approve of abortion then? (or perhaps fetus's are people but not dying children don't qualify)

You don't want to argue the case? You have to argue the man instead? You know what I meant.

But not as good a chance as we have today.

You have statistics for that? You forget that there has also been a lot of wars before 60 years ago where people regularly lost their lives. Co-morbidities taken into account your chances of dying from disease don't show as being less today.

While sanitation does indeed have a positive effect on the general well being of a populace, it has very little (if any) effect on the diseases we routinely vaccinate for.

Actually it has quite a big effect.

Sigh.

The carriers were survivors of childhood ailments, meaning their bodies had acquired resistance the old fashion (and life threatening) way by surviving the disease.

That's in essence what immunization does. (without the life threatening part)

Nope. These people acquired the disease and survived it. Sure they were immunised by the disease and that's how they became carriers of it but it was their natural immunity that enabled them to survive it. When they came into contact with nations that didn't have this natural immunity they almost wiped them out as practically everybody they infected died.

Without an immunity conveyed by childhood exposure the entire population was at extreme risk.

Without natural immunity they were at risk. Look it up. It's real.