Any Anti-Vaccine People on MyBB?

[Solitude]

http://www.antivaccinebodycount.com/Anti-Vaccine_Body_Count/Home.html

 

[PhleeBag]

"Yet Dr. Hooker’s paper remains retracted in breach of the guidelines the publisher claims to follow when considering retractions. Even before the retraction, the publisher BioMed Central (BMC) had deleted the paper online in breach of its own policies on article removal. BMC has never offered any explanation concerning these issues in response to emails from Autism Investigated. Also yet to comment in response to Autism Investigated’s inquiries about the retraction is the Committee on Publication Ethics (COPE), whose guidelines BMC claims to follow when considering retractions and breached when it retracted Dr. Hooker’s study."

http://www.autisminvestigated.com/brian-hooker-confirmed-by-cdc/

Article was retracted. Dude you REALLY don't check your sources at all ... like ever. :wtf:

Aren't you embarrassed by these sorts of continuous fsckups? It doesn't even seem to break your stride and make you consider reevaluating the way you look at what you read. Insane dude.

I note of course that the authors that seem to think you're a total mushroom in the intellectual department didn't bother to update the article with that information.

 

[porchrat]

"Yet Dr. Hooker’s paper remains retracted in breach of the guidelines the publisher claims to follow when considering retractions. Even before the retraction, the publisher BioMed Central (BMC) had deleted the paper online in breach of its own policies on article removal. BMC has never offered any explanation concerning these issues in response to emails from Autism Investigated. Also yet to comment in response to Autism Investigated’s inquiries about the retraction is the Committee on Publication Ethics (COPE), whose guidelines BMC claims to follow when considering retractions and breached when it retracted Dr. Hooker’s study."

http://www.autisminvestigated.com/brian-hooker-confirmed-by-cdc/

Their response clearly states that he both failed to identify a conflict of interest and that there were methodology flaws.

You know what frankly I give up with you. I can't waste my entire day doing this. At this point I think it has been thoroughly demonstrated that you don't review your sources, have an obvious emotional bias stemming from your own perceived personal experiences with vaccines and that you have a woefully lacking comprehension of our current understanding of immunology (self-admittedly on par with your 12 year old). I just hope that those reading this read from the start because I know your previous fsckups in that regard are going to be buried under the waves of crap you're going to keep posting.

 

[Solitude]

In my opinion those who oppose vaccination preaches death.
http://www.antivaccinebodycount.com/Anti-Vaccine_Body_Count/Home.html

 

[BCO]

Not since RZA have I seen a nuttier poster on MyBB.

 

[Solitude]

Not since RZA have I seen a nuttier poster on MyBB.

Haha very true. It seems to be his single minded purpose here at MyBB.

 

[Pox]

That was an entertaining catchup, thx Phlee.
Phlee posts article - article debunked - debunking ignored - new article posted with even worse debunking.
Poor chappie would have made a much better case of things if he ever read anything properly.

Pity it will have no effect, He's probably googling for more articles to post.

 

[porchrat]

Not since RZA have I seen a nuttier poster on MyBB.

He actually reminds me of that other anti-vaxxer nutter that used to post here. He had a similar pattern: didn't check his sources when getting articles from sources with a less than stellar reputation, didn't know the fundamentals etc.

I think his name was nogard or something like that.

If I recall correctly he thought HIV didn't exist or that it was engineered in like the 50s by the CIA in a plot to destroy the black man or something like that.

 

[Swa]

Oh I'm listening, the reduction of child mortality in part due to vaccinations doesn't suit your narrative.

It suits it just fine. The reduction wasn't just due to vaccinations so you don't know what effect it has had, if any.

But not the past time of citizens of the capital for whom the actuarial tables were intended.

There are still a lot of co-morbidities that need to be taken into account.

Yes we do, we have their bones, their tools and even their art.

And from that you make a lot of assumptions. Clue: You can't determine the age of something you don't know anything about. We can determine the age of an animal in nature because we know their habits and how it affects their teeth. Even those estimates are sometimes completely wrong in the individual instance.

And yet the rats weren't to blame.

The point remains the childhood diseases we immunize against are not preventable by anything short of complete medical isolation.

They were indirectly to blame for harboring the ticks that spreads the disease.

 

[Swa]

You know what the hilarious part of this infographic is? It demonstrates how unvaccinated people can start an outbreak. Those outbreaks are pretty much always traced back to unvaccinated people. Even with the unvaccinated morons running around the large scale vaccination of people has helped to prevent these outbreaks from even close to approaching what it was like before large scale vaccines were implemented. It demonstrates exactly why vaccines are necessary

Oh BTW another lie implied here is that measles was declared eliminated from the entire world. It was actually declared eliminated from the U.S. in all practical senses. Looking at those numbers one can understand why. They went from just under 1000 cases to 37 in just 10 years. Well done vaccines.

Not quite. A lot of those outbreaks also centered around people that were immunised. Clearly something is going on which we do not understand. But of course it must be the unvaccinated people at fault because you have declared vaccines effective. Bah.

Article was retracted. Dude you REALLY don't check your sources at all ... like ever. :wtf:

Aren't you embarrassed by these sorts of continuous fsckups? It doesn't even seem to break your stride and make you consider reevaluating the way you look at what you read. Insane dude.

I note of course that the authors that seem to think you're a total mushroom in the intellectual department didn't bother to update the article with that information.

The question is whether or not it's true. Whistleblowers are whistleblowers even if the establishment tries to cover up the allegations.

 

[semaphore]

Swa, please just confirm something. Are you saying vaccines are good or bad. I can't really make it out from all your uneducated rhetoric.

 

[Swa]

Swa, please just confirm something. Are you saying vaccines are good or bad.

Don't know.

 

[semaphore]

Don't know.

OK. Well I will vaccinate my child when I have one.

 

[Swa]

OK. Well I will vaccinate my child when I have one.

Good. Keep up the faith.

 

[semaphore]

Good. Keep up the faith.

I'm using statistics as my guidance. No need for faith.

 

[Swa]

I'm using statistics as my guidance. No need for faith.

Ok, seems you don't get this. There's no scientific evidence. What you have is the same thing the industry has accused alternative medicine of having. Keep up the faith.

 

[semaphore]

Ok, seems you don't get this. There's no scientific evidence. What you have is the same thing the industry has accused alternative medicine of having. Keep up the faith.

Lol. No scientific evidence for vaccines, okay Tell that to that polio virus. Oh wait it magically went away or by the hand of god right? rofl. Or we as humans magically developed immunity and bobs your uncle. Just when i think you may have a shred of intelligence you deliver one of those beauties.

 

[Swa]

Lol. No scientific evidence for vaccines, okay Tell that to that polio virus. Oh wait it magically went away or by the hand of god right? rofl. Or we as humans magically developed immunity and bobs your uncle. Just when i think you may have a shred of intelligence you deliver one of those beauties.

Rhetoric doesn't prove your stance. The way you gather scientific evidence is through controlled studies.

 

[porchrat]

Anybody claiming that vaccines don't have scientific evidence demonstrating efficacy simply isn't familiar with the literature.

 

[Swa]

LOL