Any Anti-Vaccine People on MyBB?

[Pitbull]

So it wasn't effective and you credit it with saving your life? That makes no logical sense.

You do know that most vaccines don't work on the premise that it blocks it completely right? It can affect the severity too if not fully immunises you.

 

[Unhappy438]

Wait, is Phleebag Swa?

And who is Swanepoel?

 

[supersunbird]

Don't pay swa any mind guys, he just loves being contrarian... about everything!

 

[Lupus]

You do know that most vaccines don't work on the premise that it blocks it completely right? It can affect the severity too if not fully immunises you.

Actually no they don't seem to know that, I've tried explaining it over and over. Especially since for MMR you need a booster shot so it loses it's effectiveness. I've also had them come and tell me if vaccines work why do people still get the flu even though they had the vaccine. It's like running into a wall trying to argue with them.

 

[LazyLion]

 

[Swa]

You do know that most vaccines don't work on the premise that it blocks it completely right? It can affect the severity too if not fully immunises you.

That's the excuse that keeps coming up. "Oh you still got, but it would have been more severe otherwise, or perhaps you just needed another dose." Never an admission that it was just plain ineffective. What separates your anecdote from someone who wasn't vaccinated? Without anything else it's the placebo effect at play here. Porch brings up epidemiological data. Besides for the fact that it's not a replacement for a proper scientific study the data can't be trusted if the truth isn't admitted. Same with the so-called "herd effect." When an entire school has an outbreak it gets blamed on those that weren't vaccinated. But wait, isn't the herd effect supposed to protect those that can't be vaccinated? Yup it is and if it was in any way effective then those vaccinated should not get it. If they're relying on not getting exposed to it then it's not really the vaccine and it is in fact ineffective.

Actually no they don't seem to know that, I've tried explaining it over and over. Especially since for MMR you need a booster shot so it loses it's effectiveness. I've also had them come and tell me if vaccines work why do people still get the flu even though they had the vaccine. It's like running into a wall trying to argue with them.

Show us the studies showing the flu vaccine as effective.

 

[Swa]

Actually no they don't seem to know that, I've tried explaining it over and over. Especially since for MMR you need a booster shot so it loses it's effectiveness. I've also had them come and tell me if vaccines work why do people still get the flu even though they had the vaccine. It's like running into a wall trying to argue with them.

https://sharylattkisson.com/govt-researchers-flu-shots-not-effective-in-elderly-after-all/
Can you explain that?

 

[ponder]

/visits thread goes :wtf:

 

[porchrat]

Wait, is Phleebag Swa?

No Swa is just an anti-vaxxer as well.

 

[porchrat]

You do know that most vaccines don't work on the premise that it blocks it completely right? It can affect the severity too if not fully immunises you.

Dude don't bring your science here. This is a place for blogs and youtube videos and scary forwarded emails with red font from your grandmother.

You're just a Big Pharma shill trying to get Prof. Swa to drink the KoolAid. Well it isn't going to work.

 

[Swa]

No Swa is just an anti-vaxxer as well.

LOL

 

[Pitbull]

That's the excuse that keeps coming up. "Oh you still got, but it would have been more severe otherwise, or perhaps you just needed another dose." Never an admission that it was just plain ineffective. What separates your anecdote from someone who wasn't vaccinated? Without anything else it's the placebo effect at play here. Porch brings up epidemiological data. Besides for the fact that it's not a replacement for a proper scientific study the data can't be trusted if the truth isn't admitted. Same with the so-called "herd effect." When an entire school has an outbreak it gets blamed on those that weren't vaccinated. But wait, isn't the herd effect supposed to protect those that can't be vaccinated? Yup it is and if it was in any way effective then those vaccinated should not get it. If they're relying on not getting exposed to it then it's not really the vaccine and it is in fact ineffective.


Show us the studies showing the flu vaccine as effective.

I'll give you one simple example, and if you don't agree I'm farking done and will never speak to you again on this topic


http://www.cdc.gov/chickenpox/about/photos.html

See the difference between vaccinated lesions and those of non-vaccinated lesions.

Now please, stop spewing shyte.

 

[LazyLion]

 

[semaphore]

I'll give you one simple example, and if you don't agree I'm farking done and will never speak to you again on this topic


http://www.cdc.gov/chickenpox/about/photos.html

See the difference between vaccinated lesions and those of non-vaccinated lesions.

Now please, stop spewing shyte.

No its the government trying to make people believe vaccines work. :erm:

 

[Pitbull]

No its the government trying to make people believe vaccines work. :erm:

Some people, one can just shake your head at them sometimes right?

How you been doing? Keeping good?

 

[Swa]

I'll give you one simple example, and if you don't agree I'm farking done and will never speak to you again on this topic


http://www.cdc.gov/chickenpox/about/photos.html

See the difference between vaccinated lesions and those of non-vaccinated lesions.

Now please, stop spewing shyte.

Since you want to "debate" like that I won't stop you and simply say I'm not the one spewing shyte. It's easy to play on people's emotions. Happens regularly in court where a photo is shown of a crime scene but guilt hasn't been established yet. It's a logical fallacy however. Now please show me the actual studies for objective comparison and not anecdotal photos.

 

[Pox]

Since you want to "debate" like that I won't stop you and simply say I'm not the one spewing shyte. It's easy to play on people's emotions. Happens regularly in court where a photo is shown of a crime scene but guilt hasn't been established yet. It's a logical fallacy however. Now please show me the actual studies for objective comparison and not anecdotal photos.

Lol, so now you want the actual studies. So that means you ignore everything on NaturalNews then, since that is almost all anecdotal.

Demands evidence
Shown Evidence
Claims this is not the right evidence
Rinse
Repeat

 

[Swa]

Lol, so now you want the actual studies. So that means you ignore everything on NaturalNews then, since that is almost all anecdotal.

Demands evidence
Shown Evidence
Claims this is not the right evidence
Rinse
Repeat

I've been asking for the evidence all along. Why are you so preoccupied with "NaturalNews"? The standard for scientific evidence is quite clear. Don't offer anything if it doesn't meet it.

 

[Pitbull]

I've been asking for the evidence all along. Why are you so preoccupied with "NaturalNews"? The standard for scientific evidence is quite clear. Don't offer anything if it doesn't meet it.

So the CDC have some sort of agenda to lie? Are you even listening to yourself?

I honestly don't know why people entertain you.

/drop mic

 

[Swa]

So the CDC have some sort of agenda to lie? Are you even listening to yourself?

I honestly don't know why people entertain you.

/drop mic

Did you read the article earlier?

/sigh