Any suggestions for a GWM Hover alternative?

[shearder]

Oh?..

I thought you were taking delivery on Saturday....

Yes - but i haven't signed the papers with tha bank yet. So it isn't "pissed away" yet - only when it is signed.

 

[Fazda]

Yes - but i haven't signed the papers with tha bank yet. So it isn't "pissed away" yet - only when it is signed.

AAAAAHHH...so we are holding it in at the moment are we?

Here's to a very healthy prostate..

 

[shearder]

No problem, the input has been fascinating.

I would now like to make a suggestion to the Admin of MyBB that we start off a whole new section called "I would like to make a d@@s if myself and would like the whole world to know"

Interesting threads such as this are endless.

You make it sound like it's still something you would LIKE to do?

 

[Fazda]

You make it sound like it's still something you would LIKE to do?

I find it hysterical! You have managed to keep me laughing all day!!

 

[shearder]

AAAAAHHH...so we are holding it in at the moment are we?

Here's to a very healthy prostate..

pfffff - ok let me spell it out - it is silver (which was not in stock), hasn't arrived yet and needs the additions added before i take delivery. Simple really - if you have bought a car before it may be logical? No? You cannot really expect something to be paid for when it has not yet been "produced".

 

[Fazda]

pfffff - ok let me spell it out - it is silver (which was not in stock), hasn't arrived yet and needs the additions added before i take delivery. Simple really - if you have bought a car before it may be logical? No? You cannot really expect something to be paid for when it has not yet been "produced".

Sorry, I've only bought 70 cars at this point, so might be a little wet behind the ears in that department.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Only 70?... Fazda.. you amateur.

Plus, I'm surprised a dealer is willing to procure a vehicle that isn't in stock, and modify it without some form of legally binding contract.... GWM must be so desperate to sell their P.O.S. vehicles.

 

[Fazda]

Only 70?... Fazda.. you amateur.

Plus, I'm surprised a dealer is willing to procure a vehicle that isn't in stock, and modify it without some form of legally binding contract.... GWM must be so desperate to sell their P.O.S. vehicles.

Sorry, I tried my best...

 

[Captain Beer]

Damn these GWM cars are nasty.
Did anyone watch Top Gear last night? I see Geoff has gone into production:
http://www.gwm.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=155&Itemid=173

 

[Andy:]

For all those completely ignorant and ego driven people on this forum why not have a look at this forum http://www.chinacarforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2027 and try do it without wearing your usual blinkers. If you take the time you will find all your questions regarding reliability and safety are answered.

For those Fortuner fanatics I would like to say that I owned one for two years and it was about the most unstable car I have ever owned. Just Google "toyota fortuner stability problems" if you don't believe that the vehicle is an accident waiting to happen. For the safety of your family my advice is to sell it quick - if you were stupid enough to buy one.


Try to keep it real in life and never listen to those idiots who pimp their rides.

 

[Fazda]

Thanks Andy
I just love it when a newcomer to the site comes in with fists swinging.....................

The Engrish on that site is fascinating!

FTR, The Fortuna stability problem has been sorted out.

 

[Fazda]

shearder you sneaky devil, I have just read all of Andy's 9 comments, and it looks as if you either have another nick or you have brought in a Hover salesman to support your cause!!

 

[Colin62]

Not only that, but Andy's link is to thread by a guy who was busy setting up a dealership, which means that he is basically a car salesman. And we all trust what car salesmen tell us don't we?

 

[luxe]

Looking for an alternative to a GWM Hover?

Might i suggest walking to your toilet, and flushing that R199k down the toilet then patting yourself on the back.

Thats what its gonna feel like after you pay for that Hover.

 

[Andy:]

A few points I forgot to mention:

1) Land Rover isn't owned by Ford but by TATA. I would rather drive a GWM than a TATA
2) Land Rover does not have a EuroNCAP above 4 stars for the Discovery or Freelander.
3) The Fortuner has no rating whatsoever, it would be lucky to get more than three stars, just look at the Fortuner's pathetic safety rating on http://www.carsplusplus.com
4) Read what an Australian from the first world has to say: http://www.my-scenic-motorbike-rides.com/great-wall-x240-hover.html
5) If your kids are embarrassed to be dropped off in a Hover then you aren't doing a good job of teaching them any set of values except a worship of materialism.
6) I don't work for Hover, have always purchased my vehicles for cash and yet I don't see the need to throw money down the toilet and if you do want to flush 199,000 down the toilet for a Hover you have more brains than the idiot who flushes twice this amount down the toilet for a Toyota, Land Rover etc..

 

[Fazda]

Oh Andy, take a hike and go and play n the Chinese site. You will be far more appreciated there.

 

[ToxicBunny]

1) Why would you assume that since its owned by TATA that the quality has decreased at Land Rover.. its a premium brand for TATA and the one thing that company is, is not stupid and it won't mess with a winning formula.
2) The GWM doesn't have a EuroNCAP result at all.. so Land Rover smokes them in that department.
3) The GWM doesn't have a rating on carsplusplus either so the Fortuna smokes it there... Even though the site is about user reviews and not actual crash tests.
4) Yeah, a blog post on a South African site by an "Australian".. definitely believable.
5) You try teach kids any kind of values when they get ridiculed at school because their folks buy a crap car.... good luck
6) Yes, I'm flushing more money down the toilet when I buy a vehicle that is a BETTER 4x4, has a better reputation in the market, and is safer..... and nice little stoking of your own ego about buying your own cars for cash...

 

[Andy:]

ToxicBunny it must be a school full of spoilt brats - please let me know which one and I will make sure I avoid it at all costs.

For the ignorant the Fortuner was designed in Thailand (great home of car design about as famous as Croatia) with emerging markets such as Asia, Latin America and Africa in mind, as well as the Middle East. It is based on the notoriously unsafe Toyota Hilux. A bakkie with a few extra seats - sounds very safe!!

And for those of great ignorance visit the 4x4 community forum and read what people who really know about 4x4 vehicles have to say about the Fortuner.

Still not convinced try reading about the Fortunner or Land Rover on Hellopeter

 

[HapticSimian]

A few points I forgot to mention:

Okie dokey, your points... show me them!

1) Land Rover isn't owned by Ford but by TATA. I would rather drive a GWM than a TATA

TATA's got the money - look at what has come from Jaguar since being taken over by TATA. As long as they keep supplying the funds & leave the established marques under their control to do their own thing, being taken over by TATA seems to be a good thing. As an aside, I'd rather drive an Indica than a Hover and yes, I have driven both.

2) Land Rover does not have a EuroNCAP above 4 stars for the Discovery or Freelander.

Really? Funny that EuroNCAP's own site shows that the 2007 Freelander indeed did score a 5/5 rating. The most current tests for Discoverys and Rangies might be 4/5, but they're EuroNCAP 4/5s - probably worth ± 76/5 by the Chinese NCAP standards.

3) The Fortuner has no rating whatsoever, it would be lucky to get more than three stars, just look at the Fortuner's pathetic safety rating on http://www.carsplusplus.com

Having no rating by virtue of not having been tested is still preferable to having a shoddy rating from a questionable source. I've driven Fortuners; their centre of gravity's higher than what I'd like, but at least they stop & go reasonably well - more than can be said for the Hover.

4) Read what an Australian from the first world has to say: http://www.my-scenic-motorbike-rides.com/great-wall-x240-hover.html

I had a look. He didn't say much... Nothing of any value anyway.

5) If your kids are embarrassed to be dropped off in a Hover then you aren't doing a good job of teaching them any set of values except a worship of materialism.

Perhaps. Or perhaps they would prefer their parents not flaunting their ignorance for the whole world to see. Being dropped off in a Hover must be like being the fat kid with bits of orange Cheetos stuck in your braces... everyone else will point and laugh, and you just won't know why. There's no justification beyond "my dad's cheap"; kids don't like to have to say that.

6) I don't work for Hover, have always purchased my vehicles for cash and yet I don't see the need to throw money down the toilet and if you do want to flush 199,000 down the toilet for a Hover you have more brains than the idiot who flushes twice this amount down the toilet for a Toyota, Land Rover etc..

Again, depending on the situation, perhaps... What people spend on cars is all relative, though. If they're able to without breaking the bank, then let them. If they've *only* got R199k to spend, then there's a whole AutoTrader full of astute 2nd-hand options they could take rather than a two-bit Chinese wannabe. Also, they'll probably live longer.

 

[Fazda]

Andy, as a school teacher who is possibly closer to children than you appear to be from your elevated position on the Hover bandwagon, I can assure you that it doesn't matter what school we are talking about...there is no way your average teenager wishes to be seen in an uncool car, and the Hover is seriously uncool.

As far as arriving at MyBB and calling the rest of us ignorant after all of 10 or 11 posts, you certainly must rate as quite some genius. Why on earth are you bothering to even mix with the plebs here?

As for the 4x4 community forum, I am a member, and have read extensively about Fortuner experiences, so don't try and laud that one around either.

All that being said, congratulations on joining MyBB and coming across as such an arrogant p r i c k all within 24 hours. I think you've set a new record.