I think siphox just started this thread because he felt like starting another argument - the last thread turned into a massive joke, especially since he's a pro at avoiding all the logical arguments and making intuitive leaps that require a great deal of smoking socks.
Frankly, I'm not interested in debating with you - you say you want us to convince you otherwise, but all you actually want to do is push your own agenda without actually listening to what anybody else has to say.
I remember Tassidar and marine1 participating in the previous thread - I'm sure they'll agree with me. You're welcome to vote ANC siphox ... don't let me hold you back. And no ... it does not mean I agree with you - I just simply don't have the patience to indefinitely bang my head against a brick wall.