Apple unveils new MacBook Air with M1 chipset

[Jamie McKane]

Apple unveils new MacBook Air with M1 chipset

Apple has launched a range of new MacBook laptops which are powered by its own M1 Silicon processor at a launch event on Tuesday 10 November.

The first Mac device to ship with this new chipset is the new Apple MacBook Air, which is more powerful than ever.

 

[Rickster]

Claiming 3.5x better performance than an Intel CPU, keep dreaming Tim Crook.

 

[backstreetboy]

A graph without numbers? Probably more Apple hot air...

 

[Elon]

Claiming 3.5x better performance than an Intel CPU, keep dreaming Tim Crook.

The iPhones hit Skylake levels of performance a couple of years back... and you know, Intel is still using Skylake architecture. And Apple is now on 5nm... Intel still soldiers on with 14nm+++++++

 

[Johnatan56]

Claiming 3.5x better performance than an Intel CPU, keep dreaming Tim Crook.

Take into account this is at 10W and is performance per watt, not total:

The Apple Fall 2020 Mac Event Live Blog: 10am PST (18:00 UTC)

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I can't think of any 10W Intel chip since one of the Atom chips, maybe there would be a 14nm celeron they launched, since that would be the only line they'd put down to 10W outside of Atom, but that would probably be a 2C/2T part.

They're targeting different markets, and also don't know what's behind the tests, also the A14 numbers were also for very specific workloads. What's mostly stopped ARM was X64 apps, it's definitely better in performance per Watt, but it has a smaller instruction set, so a lot of tasks will require a lot more executions to take place for a more limited instruction set. All depends on workload.

 

[Apogee]

Waiting for the day Apple announces something that is unfortunately less powerful than the previous model.

 

[Elon]

A graph without numbers? Probably more Apple hot air...

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Actually no hot air at all. They are beating the performance of their Intel based MacBook Airs without even having a fan in the system

 

[Johnatan56]

Actually no hot air at all. They are beating the performance of their Intel based MacBook Airs without even having a fan in the system

Didn't the 2015 Macbook not have a fan either? Can't remember if they made more Macbooks or retired that line and only went Air and Pro.

This entire move definitely makes sense, but as a dev, wouldn't adopt it, anything that side I'd have as a web app for that target audience, and as a consumer, would be hesitant to buy unless it's a super casual user that basically checks mail and browsers youtube/netflix (which this is targeted at).

 

[prod]

Claiming 3.5x better performance than an Intel CPU, keep dreaming Tim Crook.

Don't be so quick to judge, you might eat your words.

The devkits Apple sent out that used an old iPad chip had better benchmarks than the latest laptop i3 if I remember correctly

 

[Johnatan56]

Don't be so quick to judge, you might eat your words.

The devkits Apple sent out that used an old iPad chip had better benchmarks than the latest laptop i3 if I remember correctly

Benchmarks don't really mean much since can pick ones where ARM can compete, it's a different architecture. Always check workload.

 

[Elon]

Didn't the 2015 Macbook not have a fan either? Can't remember if they made more Macbooks or retired that line and only went Air and Pro.

Yes, you're right. Funny you mention that, because that line was retired due to Intel failing to deliver on their promised roadmap. And so the cracks begun to appear.

 

[Elon]

Unified memory! Now that I didn't expect. Very interesting. But AMD is doing it too.

 

[Johnatan56]

Yes, you're right. Funny you mention that, because that line was retired due to Intel failing to deliver on their promised roadmap. And so the cracks begun to appear.

Tbf, you're talking about Apple who decided it was good place the 50V powerline to the display next to the CPU dataline, who tune their chips to turbo to the max possible in the form factor without caring about longevity.
That's not saying Intel hasn't messed up, when they started letting bean counters make the decisions, that was the beginning of the crisis they find themselves in now. At least they still have huge reserves and could hopefully turn the company around.

Unified memory! Now that I didn't expect. Very interesting. But AMD is doing it too.

Intel will also have it soon, it's what you need for the data center now, so pretty much every manufacturer will have it. Quite interesting that Intel was probably one of the first to do research on it etc. in the early 2010's-2015 (can't remember the dates anymore), if they'd not been stuck at 14nm they'd probably have been the first. Too late now, they're going to be playing catch-up.

 

[backstreetboy]

Actually no hot air at all. They are beating the performance of their Intel based MacBook Airs without even having a fan in the system

Lol IBIWISI. Apple's middle name is hubris after all.

 

[3WA]

Waiting for the day Apple announces something that is unfortunately less powerful than the previous model.

Happened when they made Tim Cook CEO.

 

[Elon]

who tune their chips to turbo to the max possible in the form factor without caring about longevity.

But that's exactly my point - the form factor design was based on the assumption of imminent process shrinks that never came. Apple moved fast and broke things. Literally.

 

[Elon]

Lol IBIWISI. Apple's middle name is hubris after all.

Do you know that most high-end Android phones have the SoC thermal pasted to the display, so that it can act as a heatsink? Apple doesn't even have to bother with such tricks.

 

[Hamster]

Do you know that most high-end Android phones have the SoC thermal pasted to the display, so that it can act as a heatsink? Apple doesn't even have to bother with such tricks.

You're not gonna win this "debate" with him. He cannot be convinced of anything. Save your "breath".

 

[backstreetboy]

Do you know that most high-end Android phones have the SoC thermal pasted to the display, so that it can act as a heatsink? Apple doesn't even have to bother with such tricks.

iPhone 11 Pro Max Teardown

Exploratory teardown of the newest iPhone, with new ultra-wideband hardware and rumored reverse wireless charging. Performed Sept. 20, 2019.

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we tease apart several layers of graphite thermal transfer material backing the RF board.

Apple says its improved thermal design gives these iPhone Pros the "best sustained performance ever in an iPhone." That's accomplished by pulling heat from the logic board straight through several layers of graphite where it dissipates into the rear case.

Come again?

 

[Johnatan56]

Do you know that most high-end Android phones have the SoC thermal pasted to the display, so that it can act as a heatsink? Apple doesn't even have to bother with such tricks.

Would like the source for that one as heat would be board -> card -> copper heat spreader or foil.