Appliance cost

r00igev@@r

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Is there a table of the average use costs of appliances in eskom power.
Like heaters, geyers, pool pumps, deep freezers, etc.
I'm buying some more smart plugs and MCUs and want to create alerts on problematic devices.
Would help if I had a base line to start using.
 

wingnut771

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Is there a table of the average use costs of appliances in eskom power.
Like heaters, geyers, pool pumps, deep freezers, etc.
I'm buying some more smart plugs and MCUs and want to create alerts on problematic devices.
Would help if I had a base line to start using.
Not sure how, it's all relative.

How much hot water do you use, what temp is it set at?
How long do you run the pool pump and heater for?
What size and thermostat setting is your freezer?

You would have to work out your own base line IMHO.
 

bwana

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Get a Kill-a-watt or a smart plug with similar functionality and establish your own baseline.

Or a calculator.
 

r00igev@@r

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Get a Kill-a-watt or a smart plug with similar functionality and establish your own baseline.

Or a calculator.
I'm doing my own baseline but how do I know my Samsung fridge is doing OK versus a new one? Same for my 20 year old geyser?

Not going to buy a new fridge just to baseline it!
 

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I'm doing my own baseline but how do I know my Samsung fridge is doing OK versus a new one? Same for my 20 year old geyser?

Not going to buy a new fridge just to baseline it!
You look at the label and compare it with the actual readings. If label on my fridge says it uses 100w and it's using more than that, there's could be problem.
 

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I'm doing my own baseline but how do I know my Samsung fridge is doing OK versus a new one? Same for my 20 year old geyser?

Not going to buy a new fridge just to baseline it!
You will know when you baseline it.
 

r00igev@@r

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What energy rating does this have?
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or this
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I bought oil fin heaters because I assumed they are cheaper than the radiant heaters.

I bought a air fryer as I assumed its cheaper than the oven at warming chips.

I'm now going through the house with tuya plugs and cbi mcus checking where the most power is being used.

When I've built up my knowledge base I'm keeping it all to myself. meh.
 

wingnut771

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I bought oil fin heaters because I assumed they are cheaper than the radiant heaters.

I bought a air fryer as I assumed its cheaper than the oven at warming chips.

I'm now going through the house with tuya plugs and cbi mcus checking where the most power is being used.

When I've built up my knowledge base I'm keeping it all to myself. meh.
Infrared heaters are the most efficient imho. They warm you instantly, even outdoors.
 

wingnut771

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I'm surprised you managed to watch the video in it's entirety in such a short time because he addresses IR and oil fin heaters.
Oops, I saw space heater and thought, that is not infrared. Do I have to watch it or can you provide the cliff notes?
 

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Oops, I saw space heater and thought, that is not infrared. Do I have to watch it or can you provide the cliff notes?
Basically they all use the same amount of energy to heat a room but an IR heater heats you directly... or something like that.
 

r00igev@@r

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Oops, I saw space heater and thought, that is not infrared. Do I have to watch it or can you provide the cliff notes?
An oil fin heater is safer and better for extended use. Else a cheap safeway does the job just as well as anything else.
 

wingnut771

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An oil fin heater is safer and better for extended use. Else a cheap safeway does the job just as well as anything else.
Once you try infrared you'll get it. Heaters have a switch underneath so if it falls over it switches off.
 

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Basically they all use the same amount of energy to heat a room but an IR heater heats you directly... or something like that.
Which is my point. It takes less energy (smaller heater) to heat just you than to use a huge one to heat the air in an entire room.
 

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My house has these windows. Its like each window has its own stoep which is supposed to make a house cool in summer and warm in winter.

Expensive and a waste of building material and never seen another one like it.
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