Are online S.A gamer lame?

[Jonny Two Shoes]

I have been exposed to some serious games with more than just mindless objectives and continuity. However I found that these were quickly rejected by others because it required a bit more involvement and concentration.

Im not saying the other games aren't great, hell Im stuck into Quake 3 lately again, but It just seems that there may be many gamers who fail to see the value of a game just because it's not cool and you can't ask a friend to check out your new RX8 with NOS or record your ultimate headshot and post it online. And yes I believe that diversity is key in gaming otherwise you get no more out of it other than addiction. Trying something new now and then and keeping an open mind with gaming keeps me from going insane to be honest.

So on that point I can relate to what Macguyver1 is saying.

It is a pity we have such a small gaming community though, and Im sure you all know exactly who I blame for that.

 

[Kompete]

Are online SA gamers lame? No...Macguyver1 your argument is lame...

You obviously cannnot grasp basic concepts, like...supply and demand...system constraints...scarce resources...lifecycle maturity

I personally will buy one game and play nothing else for 6 months...hell I still play the odd civ1 game...going for 10 years now, why? "If its good and I like it, I will play it"

Besides how else am I gonna become supergood and kick@ss online!

 

[lilDeath]

What is BF and CSS???

Guild Wars FTW!!!

and yes, certain gamers are just lame

 

[Razer0]

LOL Killa!

/me ignores lildeaths naiiveness

 

[Macguyver1]

I have been exposed to some serious games with more than just mindless objectives and continuity. However I found that these were quickly rejected by others because it required a bit more involvement and concentration.

Im not saying the other games aren't great, hell Im stuck into Quake 3 lately again, but It just seems that there may be many gamers who fail to see the value of a game just because it's not cool and you can't ask a friend to check out your new RX8 with NOS or record your ultimate headshot and post it online. And yes I believe that diversity is key in gaming otherwise you get no more out of it other than addiction. Trying something new now and then and keeping an open mind with gaming keeps me from going insane to be honest.

So on that point I can relate to what Macguyver1 is saying.

It is a pity we have such a small gaming community though, and Im sure you all know exactly who I blame for that.

I almost fell off my chair when I read that some1 agreed with me? This just messed up my whole theory.

Now it means there is me and 1 other guy in South Africa that enjoy the fact that Game designers give us variety, and that playing the same game and the same level over and over again is almost a form of retardation.

 

[doobiwan]

While I understand your complaint, I think you're way on the wrong track and deriding gamers for wanting to play socially with more than 4 peeps on a server is just daft.

It's not that SA gamers don't want to try anything new, game sales will show you that they buy a huge variety of games, the problem is critical mass. There are enough player to ensure that there is ALWAYS at least one BF2 or CSS running with a decent game on. If the numbers are not there you can't play! So you'll go where there is game. Do you have any idea how many BF2 players there needs to be to sustain that? 100's if not 1000's, just to keep a server going.

If you're so damn desperate to play less popular games, drop R150 on a bit of prepaid unshaped bandwidth and go play desperate housewives or whatever it is you want to play on EU servers. (I play DoW and BF2 internationally and on unshaped ADSL lag is perfectly acceptable)

 

[chop]

Rather blame Telkom or ICASA.

Due to the lag we are stuck with playing games like BF2 etc. on SA servers. Internet connectivity just costs too much and a lot of people that want to play can't afford to spend R500+ a month. Like doobiwan said, you need a certain amount of people to sustain a game server and there are just not enough gamers in SA to sustain 50 game servers so we concentrate on the best ones.

The UK has a few million broadband connections we have about 200 thousand ADSL lines. It just isn't feasible.

 

[Jonny Two Shoes]

hmmmmmm its not about bein social through gaming or SA gaming limitations or whatever. I still enjoy BF2 but it's a lame situation we can do nothing about. So in the end our level of gaming is just lame and we just have to accept it. Fair enough????

 

[Nosaj]

And no one mentioned ut2k4. SGS servers decently full every night.
Last few post explain alot of the probs as well.
go here http://www.unreal.co.za/

 

[_TrXtR_]

yes i wonder what lame game it is

online tetris eh, well sorry buddie but we play the games we play because they are popular and freakin awesome


we dont want to play some crappy original games like you do

we like being 1 dimensional

so go and buy bf 2 bf 2142 css and you'll be hooked

im thinking this game is tom clancy? the new one eh?

I beg (allot) to differ.
Online tetris is not lame!
I played tetrinet and had a load of fun

 

[Macguyver1]

Ok well

I see on the saix web page they are launching a Dark Messiah server, this is a steam game, I wonder if it will be another ghost server.

 

[doobiwan]

I heard net code and balance is wonky, so probably

 

[Macguyver1]

I heard net code and balance is wonky, so probably

S.A Gamers are WONKY!!

 

[Balstrome]

I am not much of a gamer, but from what I have seen south african gamers fall into two catagories, namely quick fix and macro maniacs. The quick fixers are those "kiddies" who dont even read the manual and jump in and shot any and everything they can, while the macro maniacs are mostly rpg'ers who are willing to spend hours working on getting that last 0,1 skill point.

Quick fixers are fun for a wam, bam, thank you, type game.. but if you want a really good session get in with the macro maniacs... They know all the positions.

 

[nrg_wp]

I am not much of a gamer, but from what I have seen south african gamers fall into two catagories, namely quick fix and macro maniacs. The quick fixers are those "kiddies" who dont even read the manual and jump in and shot any and everything they can, while the macro maniacs are mostly rpg'ers who are willing to spend hours working on getting that last 0,1 skill point.

Quick fixers are fun for a wam, bam, thank you, type game.. but if you want a really good session get in with the macro maniacs... They know all the positions.

why not the best of both. Play Battlefield, you will spend hours, and hours, and hours on end to rank up, kit up, squad up. at the same time shooting the crap out of everyone

 

[Nexorsist]

To Macguyver1:

When you make a post try not to generalise. You do generalise on extreme levels and it is very irritating and you come accross as nimwit. If you want to make some statements have something concrete to back it up with, no one cares about a "Gospel according to Macguyver".

Anyway, yes many gamers play CSS and BF. Yet you forget that there is actually a wide variety of games that also contain large communities. It takes effort to get a community of people together for a specific game and it normally also takes a lot of time. Other games include, Quake3, Quake4, UT, DOTA, WC3, BF2142, NFS, etc. Now our gaming community is not very big, contrary to popular belief, and therefore it is hard to sustain large communities for less known online titles, like Dark Messiah.

You must understand that the gamers aren't "Lame" they are addicted. The whole reason why people don't want to mess up there aim, is because they don't play CS/CSS for enjoyment anymore but play it to become better or to keep there level skill where it is. Why would someone want to destroy something they really worked hard at getting? Being good at a game like Dark Messiah doesn't mean anything, being good at CS could mean that you might get a chance in a good clan and possibly win things at a tournament.

People have this false idea that they might make it to the top and somehow get into the top clan and then win trips oversea's etc. Yes at most times its a stupid belief, but if that fuels someone to play their best then so be it. You have to learn to distinguish between Competitive gamers, and Laid Back gamers (like yourself) that actually play games for enjoyment purposes. Yes you do get gamers that might not specifically fall into either of the two catogories, but that is the general catogorisation.

If there is a specific game you feel you really enjoy and others might aswell, put some effort into it and establish a community for it. An example is with Savage, as posted in my other thread. We were 3people a couple of weeks ago and because the game requires quite large numbers to be really enjoyable we spent a lot of effort and managed to get it that there is atleast 10 or so games a day with many people.

Another thing to consider is, is that to play online generally requires a legit version of a game. Many people don't wish to spend more money on already expensive games which might not actually be fun online. That is why you will notice the growth in a games community can either be exponentially fast or very slow.

Lastly. I know that making sweeping statements and throwing out a general insult at the largest gaming community is a good way of attracting attention and getting things heated up, but it is actually bad form and you should try to refrain from doing things like that unless you have a good point.

Thanks
Nexorsist

 

[nrg_wp]

To Macguyver1:


People have this false idea that they might make it to the top and somehow get into the top clan and then win trips oversea's etc. Yes at most times its a stupid belief, but if that fuels someone to play their best then so be it.


Thanks
Nexorsist

LOL. isnt this happening at this moment? good points Nexorsist

 

[h0ll0w]

I have come to the conclusion that online S.A gamers are lame, I base this fact on the following

Almost all S.A gamers play the same games online, its the BF series and CSS, when told to try a different title online, they will usually say things like (but that will mess up my aiming in CSS or I am to cheap to buy original titles)

If you take a look at all the awesome saix servers that have been given to the gaming community you will see that most of them are ghost servers, with only the BF and CSS servers being full all the time.

Some gamers are so lame, that not only do they only ever play one game, but they only ever play one map on the same game.

I can only imagine that the S.A online gaming comunity are the type of people that would be happy eating the same meal in a restaurant every night of their lives.

And watching the same movie over and over again every day.

Look there are exceptions to the rule, but they are the minority caught in a world of mindless Awpers hanging out in dashuur.

give me a break !

Who are you comparing us with macguyver ?

Did you ever stop to think that online gaming is infinitely bigger in US/Europe/China/Japan etc because broadband and PC's are much more affordable ? The more people play online, the bigger the variety of games will be.

I think that under our circumstances (profiteering & extortion by big corporates) we have a great online gaming community.

 

[fivelza]

S.A Gamers are WONKY!!

I guess you include yourself here too.....

I see on the saix web page they are launching a Dark Messiah server, this is a steam game, I wonder if it will be another ghost server.

If it is then you can have something more to complain about

 

[Macguyver1]

Firstly lads if you go back and read all the posts you would realise that I didn't generalise, and I know their are gamers that play other games and are not afraid to try new things, and YES I am also in the category of people who play CSS and BF but I have logged onto many local servers that have sat empty since the day that saix launched them.

What I found strange is that internationally these games are revered by gamers but localy they sit empty.

I believe there are 2 things that contribute to the fact that S.A gamers only play a hand full of games.

1. Our gaming community is small (This is most likely the biggest contributer)

2. S.A Piracy of games is out of control, out of all the people I know that plays PC games, I am the only one who buys all my games original.