ArrayComm to drop out ....?

[dbnnet]

Although ArrayComm has scored some good wins for iBurst, notably in
Australia, it has not gained the volume uptake to make it a viable contender
for the mass market and may drop out of the equipment market, instead
relying on gaining major acceptance for Intellicell in other vendors’ gear
– an ambition for which the Intel deal is clearly invaluable.

From http://www.wimaxtrends.com feature acticle.

 

[ic]

That's a different article, but it's still old news...hint look for ArrayComm .

 

[regardtv]

Thanks for that dbnnet

 

[RichardG]

Hehehehee, easy iBURST is unstable, that what I heard from PPL in Austrailia who have used and also heard the cost of setting up iBURST Network cost Hundreds of Millions of RAND and no other ISP wants to take iBURST only 2 Country are using it in Austrailia and South Africa, so it aint a lot of profit for ArrayComm, MAYBE thats why they pulling out and its to noisy maybe and the ISP don't want in other country since they've faster lines.

 

[swordfish1]

provided there is 100% ADSL coverage and GPRS drops to about R200 per GB, iBurst can be counted dead ... for me it is dead already, but some people have no other choice

there will be a lot of R2800 modems collecting dust around soon ...

 

[LandyMan]

there will be a lot of R2800 modems collecting dust around soon ...

Or dead bugs, as I will strapping mine to the front of my Land Rover ... the flashing lights will make it look like KITT on steroids

 

[slimothy]

iBurst was never meant to be an ongoing solution, it was merely a patch, a quick last mile solution that would be taken over by wimax when the time is right. The reason you're using it now is because we're a 3rd world country with 3rd world ifrustructure, everything here is dead, our ADSL isn't comparable to normal countries ADSL, plus we haven't even heard the words vDSL yet in terms of our own connectivity.

Arraycom can drop it but SA can't afford to, not untill we're on par with the world or have wimax, so iBurst has a place here for the next 2 - 10 years... sad but true

 

[dbnnet]

If iBurst gets dumped, it would be difficult to have a 2 month plan, let alone a 2-10 year plan.
If there is no reliable availability of equipment for new or replacement towers into the future, the business plan would collapse!
This being the case, WBS certainly would be crazy to invest in any new iBurt infrastructure anyway.

 

[jmn]

It might have been an ArrayComm initiative, but it appeared as if Kyocera had a bigger interest in the technology with ArrayComm largely geared towards the antennae, or even the RF side, which is fairly well developed anyway. Would like to see what Kyocera does.

 

[slimothy]

yeah as long as it is profitable for kyocera they will keep it alive, thats business, but no ones kidding themselves, as soon as wimax is feasable it will be the preferred last mile solution... dont forget companies sign contracts for this stuff, its not like you can just cut off support overnight, so you have at least 3 international markets contracted to kyocera and a few looking at implementing it untill wimax is cooking, its not going anywhere

 

[dbnnet]

Kyocera could well buy the iBurst unit from ArrayCom.
However, they recently made their future intentions clear by joining the WiMax Forum!
Currently this market space (outside of the USA), has two camps, 3G & WiMax, the rest are fading away quite quickly now.

 

[slimothy]

duh, everyone wants on the wimax bandwagon, thats what i'm saying, but kyocera are contracted, they dont have a choice but to support iburst, you dont sell a 2 year product and 3 months later say naah i dont wanna, i'm afraid it doesnt work like that, and its not like iburst is the only product kyocera do, so of course they are looking at other technologies

 

[dbnnet]

.... But which business in it's right mind is going to invest or expand into a technology that is being slowly phased out.
WBS are going to have some very difficult decisions to make.

 

[slimothy]

they've already paid for the exclusive contract and have a user base, so I'm not sure what you're talking about, its profitable to them and they have a niche in the market untill wimax comes, so they'll invest as much as they have to to keep up profits so when the next last mile solution comes along they can buy into that too.

I mean ADSL is being phased out overseas too, but its not gonna stop making it profitable for BT, Telkom or any multinational that uses it

 

[dbnnet]

That's my point - I believe they'll stop investing, and rather milk what they've got.
Either way .... we will soon find out!

ADSL phased out? ... OK, so you're obviously a software guy

"Despite strong expectations for new broadband technologies, DSL still dominates the global market". - Yankee Group, 15 March 2005

 

[jmn]

Is a future convergence between iBurst and WiMAX excluded?

 

[slimothy]

I am a software guy, but ADSL is only a solution for where people cant get cable, and wireless is a solution where people cant get ADSL.

I dont mean adsl vs vdsl, from what i understand it spretty much the same technology just over different cables or something

in my own sometimes humble opinion i dont think wbs is going to throw in the towel UNTILL an alternative is available, so if wimax is here in november ready for comercial pimping then they'll use it, but untill then and probably for a short while after that they'll keep iburst, anyways they already have everything they need to make a profit now except they dont seem arsed sometimes

 

[dbnnet]

I am a software guy, but ADSL is only a solution for where people cant get cable, and wireless is a solution where people cant get ADSL.

It depends who one listens to.
Intel for one are convinced that WiMax will make everything else obsolete.
They believe that cable is simply too expensive outside of built-up areas, even in the USA.

Either way, ADSL currently has 59% of the total worldwide broadband subscriber base.

 

[slimothy]

but thats because 59% of people cant get on a cable connection, thats how ADSL is in this country too, its liek cable for us, i can say 90% of our users are on dial up, but thats not saying much

and FYI intel are marketting wimax as a last mile solution, much like iburst, not as a replacment for anythign else

 

[dbnnet]

All the above broadband access technologies into the home ARE "last mile" technologies anyway ???