Austria sues European Union, claiming natural gas and nuclear energy are not 'green'

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Why do you say the sun is melting the ice in the last 50 years when it's been fine for the last 22000?
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
The "greenhouse effect" that CO2 contributes is negligible.
CO2 emissions are not responsible for global warming.
It's not Science - it's Politics - it's propaganda - it's about money.
 

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So why are you asking the question?



No, so why don't you tell me and all the other nice people the science behind why climate change is a lie.

Not money.

Not politics.

The science.
Where is "the Science".
You have been brainwashed.
Wake up.
 
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ToxicBunny

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Ask me a decent question, and I will try to answer it.
Silly questions are just that - silly.
Your silly questions and reasoning is not unlike that of a climate cultist.
You said one was valid so answer it then.
 

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Where is "the Science".
You have been brainwashed.
Wake up.

Brainwashed? I told you I have no knowledge on the subject and asked you to explain.

So explain please. I would sincerely like to know the science behind why as you claim, climate change is a hoax.
 

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Brainwashed? I told you I have no knowledge on the subject and asked you to explain.

So explain please. I would sincerely like to know the science behind why as you claim, climate change is a hoax.
You admit that you have no knowledge on the subject, yet you claim that "it is Science".
Yes?
So you believe "the Science" without knowing anything about it?
 

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You admit that you have no knowledge on the subject, yet you claim that "it is Science".
Yes?

I didn't say anything about science or anything else. You came here and said that climate change is a hoax and you wanted to discuss the science.

So you believe "the Science" without knowing anything about it?

No, I don't believe anything but I want to learn. You claim climate change is a hoax so tell me why. Because otherwise it looks like you are the one claiming it is a hoax without knowing anything about it.
 

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I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
The "greenhouse effect" that CO2 contributes is negligible.
CO2 emissions are not responsible for global warming.
It's not Science - it's Politics - it's propaganda - it's about money.

You stating as such doesn't really help the discussion.

What science do you rely on to claim that the contribution of CO2 to global warming/greenhouse effect is negligible?
 

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I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
The "greenhouse effect" that CO2 contributes is negligible.
CO2 emissions are not responsible for global warming.
It's not Science - it's Politics - it's propaganda - it's about money.
I'll ask again (I'll use different words this time) seeing you didn't answer the question and went on a complete tangent:

Why do you blame the sun for the warming in the last 50 years when the world temperature has been stable for 22000 years?
 

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I'll ask again (I'll use different words this time) seeing you didn't answer the question and went on a complete tangent:

Why do you blame the sun for the warming in the last 50 years when the world temperature has been stable for 22000 years?
I'm not "blaming" the Sun.
I'm telling you that "climate change" (whatever the hell that means) is driven by the Sun.
The impact that CO2 emissions have is so small that it is negligible.

"CO2 emissions are responsible for global warming and/or climate change" is propaganda.
It's politics (and money).
 

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I'm not "blaming" the Sun.
I'm telling you that "climate change" (whatever the hell that means) is driven by the Sun.
The impact that CO2 emissions have is so small that it is negligible.

"CO2 emissions are responsible for global warming and/or climate change" is propaganda.
It's politics (and money).
How do you come to that conclusion if for 22000 years the earths temperature has been relatively constant, only changing exponentially in the last 50 years.

The only conclusion my brain can come with is the industrial revolution.
 

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I'm not "blaming" the Sun.
I'm telling you that "climate change" (whatever the hell that means) is driven by the Sun.
The impact that CO2 emissions have is so small that it is negligible.

"CO2 emissions are responsible for global warming and/or climate change" is propaganda.
It's politics (and money).

Are you ever going to answer any actual question relating to your stance that it is just propaganda? On what do you rely to make that claim.
 

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Are you ever going to answer any actual question relating to your stance that it is just propaganda? On what do you rely to make that claim.
I rely on common sense and logic.
It would seem that you have been successfully brainwashed by the incessant propaganda that CO2 emissions are responsible for "climate change" - that it is "Science".
 

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I rely on common sense and logic.
It would seem that you have been successfully brainwashed by the incessant propaganda that CO2 emissions are responsible for "climate change" - that it is "Science".
Industrial Revolution not logical to you?
 

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I'm not "blaming" the Sun.
I'm telling you that "climate change" (whatever the hell that means) is driven by the Sun.
The impact that CO2 emissions have is so small that it is negligible.

"CO2 emissions are responsible for global warming and/or climate change" is propaganda.
It's politics (and money).
Climate change hysteria is certainly doing a lot of heavy lifting. The retarded response that just **happens** to align with a one-world government with diminished living standards is the evidence I need that a lot of claims are overblown.

Nevertheless, the core scientific theory behind CO2 being the global raising of temperatures is sound and makes sense to me. If it were as serious as the cultists made it out to be, they wouldn't be bothering with renewables and would have just switched to nuclear energy.

This is what the response to the hole in the ozone layer was like. A problem was identified with CFCs, a replacement was found and then that was it. The solution to CFC emissions wasn't to ban all aerosol products and tell people to return to iceboxes as opposed to fridges.
 

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I rely on common sense and logic.
It would seem that you have been successfully brainwashed by the incessant propaganda that CO2 emissions are responsible for "climate change" - that it is "Science".

Yeah, common sense and logic to you somehow seem to exclude pretty universally accepted science..
 

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I'm not "blaming" the Sun.
I'm telling you that "climate change" (whatever the hell that means) is driven by the Sun.
The impact that CO2 emissions have is so small that it is negligible.

"CO2 emissions are responsible for global warming and/or climate change" is propaganda.
It's politics (and money).
You've obviously never bothered to find out why they're called greenhouse gases. Compare Venus and Mercury.
 
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Industrial Revolution not logical to you?
Are you basing your reasoning purely on a concocted graph?
Is "the Science" true - do you believe it is Science.
Have you been fooled into believing something to be true that is not true?
 

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Are you basing your reasoning purely on a concocted graph?
Is "the Science" true - do you believe it is Science.
Have you been fooled into believing something to be true that is not true?

You have yet to prove its not true.

All you've done is stomp your feet around and throw a temper tantrum.
 
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