Austria sues European Union, claiming natural gas and nuclear energy are not 'green'

Moosedrool

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It is so small that it can be considered as being insignificant.

Citation please?

Also can you explain a basic concept for us please? How does oxygen and nitrogen in our atmosphere warm up? Because you said all gasses absorb heat radiation which is factually incorrect.
 

ToxicBunny

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Factually incorrect.

Even with the worst doomsday predictions coming true and sea levels rising to somewhere where it was during the midevil warm period the planet and people can survive. The planet will be greener because of the CO2.

Some people's beach front property might be under water, but that has happened before.

Factually incorrect, but its ok trolltrot we all know that reality/logic/reason/common sense escape you entirely.
 

tetrasect

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I said nothing about tempreture. I spoke about the sea level.

Whoever made that graph needs to explain when the melt point of water changed or how exactly we have more ice today still and lower sea levels.

No, the person who made that graph is not obliged to fill the gaps in your knowledge. That's your job.
 

rietrot

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No, the person who made that graph is not obliged to fill the gaps in your knowledge. That's your job.
Lol okay then.

New take from the scientists. They are not supposed to compare or reconcile their incorrect findings with reality.
 

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Citation please?

Also can you explain a basic concept for us please? How does oxygen and nitrogen in our atmosphere warm up? Because you said all gasses absorb heat radiation which is factually incorrect.
Are you saying that the Oxygen and Nitrogen in the air (atmosphere) does not warm up?
 

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The previous 8 warnings about <edit>imminent<edit> catastrophic climate changes turned out to be wrong.
They were false.
But this (9'th) time, it's true. ;)
 
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ForceFate

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The Sun is hot.
It shines on the earth, and warms things up.
This includes the Oxygen and Nitrogen in the air (aka as our atmosphere).
I asked why is the moon not hot. Why is Mercury not hotter than Venus?



Edit: I hope you're not going to tell me about a firmament.
 

Moosedrool

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The Sun is hot.
It shines on the earth, and warms things up.
This includes the Oxygen and Nitrogen in the air (aka as our atmosphere).

The sun can't conduct heat through a vacuum only electromagnetic radiation (light, microwaves, radio waves, IR and UV) and some charged particles.

Explain to me how the light heats things up and how the oxygen and nitrogen heats up?
 

Ponderer

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The sun can't conduct heat through a vacuum only electromagnetic radiation (light, microwaves, radio waves, IR and UV) and some charged particles.
Correct.
Explain to me how the light heats things up and how the oxygen and nitrogen heats up?
The Sun radiates energy.
Some of the energy is deflected by an electromagnetic field.
Some energy is absorbed by the atmosphere.
Some energy is reflected.
Some energy reaches the surface.
Some of the energy that reaches the surface is reflected, and some is absorbed as heat.
The heated things in turn heat up the things around them.
One of those things is the air (our atmosphere).
The air is comprised of mostly Nitrogen and Oxygen.
Hot air is mostly hot Nitrogen and Oxygen.
 

rietrot

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The previous 8 warnings about <edit>imminent<edit> catastrophic climate changes turned out to be wrong.
They were false.
But this (9'th) time, it's true. ;)
Way more. The doomsday cult has been busy making false predictions of the world ending for centuries.

I'm sure even the climate specific ones are more than 9
 

Moosedrool

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The heated things in turn heat up the things around them.
One of those things is the air (our atmosphere).
The air is comprised of mostly Nitrogen and Oxygen.

This is how the oxygen and nitrogen heats up. It's ground heat conducting to the air above it and convection in the atmosphere from the low ground level. Oxygen and nitrogen does not absorb radiated heat (Infrared light). It's transparent in the infrared. The ground does, you do, and greenhouse gasses do. Which is what is known as heat trapping.

Can you see why you're wrong?
 

C4Cat

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Correct.

The Sun radiates energy.
Some of the energy is deflected by an electromagnetic field.
Some energy is absorbed by the atmosphere.
Some energy is reflected.
Some energy reaches the surface.
Some of the energy that reaches the surface is reflected, and some is absorbed as heat.
The heated things in turn heat up the things around them.
One of those things is the air (our atmosphere).
The air is comprised of mostly Nitrogen and Oxygen.
Hot air is mostly hot Nitrogen and Oxygen.
Have you ever used a microwave oven?
 
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