Austria sues European Union, claiming natural gas and nuclear energy are not 'green'

ToxicBunny

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This is how the oxygen and nitrogen heats up. It's ground heat conducting to the air above it and convection in the atmosphere from the low ground level. Oxygen and nitrogen does not absorb radiated heat (Infrared light). It's transparent in the infrared. The ground does, you do, and greenhouse gasses do. Which is what is known as heat trapping.

Can you see why you're wrong?

No!

Big Science, SCAM! Propaganda!
 

tetrasect

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Way more. The doomsday cult has been busy making false predictions of the world ending for centuries.

I'm sure even the climate specific ones are more than 9

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"Then Fck off with your stupid lifeboat!"
 

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This is how the oxygen and nitrogen heats up. It's ground heat conducting to the air above it and convection in the atmosphere from the low ground level. Oxygen and nitrogen does not absorb radiated heat (Infrared light). It's transparent in the infrared. The ground does, you do, and greenhouse gasses do. Which is what is known as heat trapping.

Can you see why you're wrong?
* sigh *

Dude, seriously.
When the air around you is hot, it means that the Nitrogen and Oxygen that makes up most of the air around you is hot.
How can you not understand it.
 

Moosedrool

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* sigh *

Dude, seriously.
When the air around you is hot, it means that the Nitrogen and Oxygen that makes up most of the air around you is hot.
How can you not understand it.

No shyte sherlock. And what does this have to do with your false claim that all gasses trap heat?
 

ToxicBunny

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* sigh *

Dude, seriously.
When the air around you is hot, it means that the Nitrogen and Oxygen that makes up most of the air around you is hot.
How can you not understand it.

Dude seriously...

We all know why you can't understand, but still Dude seriously?
 

3WA

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No shyte sherlock. And what does this have to do with your false claim that all gasses trap heat?
Haven’t you ever noticed that when you’re in an airplane you don’t freeze to death? That’s because nitrogen and oxygen are trapping heat at cruising altitude! :p
 

tetrasect

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It's not a false claim.
When a gas is heated, it by very definition traps heat.
FFS. You obviously don't understand even the most basic concepts.

Try grasp this:

If you put a water into a microwave it will get hot.

If you put an empty glass in the microwave it doesn't get hot.

Because the microwaves pass through glass but they get absorbed by water.

If you put a glass with a little bit of water into the microwave they will both get hot, because the hot water heats up the glass.

If you only put a single drop of water in the glass, the glass will only heat up a little bit. If you fill it half way, it will get extremely hot.

The sun is like the microwave, the Nitrogen and Oxygen is like the glass and CO2 is like the water.
 

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Haven’t you ever noticed that when you’re in an airplane you don’t freeze to death? That’s because nitrogen and oxygen are trapping heat at cruising altitude! :p
Yeah - I'm sure that the density of the air at that altitude has nothing to do with it. ;)
 

Ponderer

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Then you understand that CO2 emissions which are caused by humans create global warming.

Great chat.
No - the effect that CO2 emissions have on "global warming" is so small that it can effectively be discarded/ignored.
CO2 emissions are not the cause of "global warming".
 

Ponderer

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FFS. You obviously don't understand even the most basic concepts.

Try grasp this:

If you put a water into a microwave it will get hot.

If you put an empty glass in the microwave it doesn't get hot.

Because the microwaves pass through glass but they get absorbed by water.

If you put a glass with a little bit of water into the microwave they will both get hot, because the hot water heats up the glass.

If you only put a single drop of water in the glass, the glass will only heat up a little bit. If you fill it half way, it will get extremely hot.

The sun is like the microwave, the Nitrogen and Oxygen is like the glass and CO2 is like the water.
When air heats up, it is mostly heated Nitrogen and Oxygen.
 

Moosedrool

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It's not a false claim.
When a gas is heated, it by very definition traps heat.

No you're stupid with this. Sorry.

Absorbing the IR radiation is what is meant by heat trapping. Atoms increase the electron orbits before emitting the radiation back into the atmosphere scattered which allows more ground heating by emitting a lot of it back down. The CO2, water vapor and methane molecules will continue vibrating during these absorptions while on its path, conducting the energy out to the rest of the atmosphere, warming it up and emitting IR causing more ground warming.

Natural greenhouse gasses are what is keeping the temperature suited for life. It's a pretty delicate balance. Adding more produces hotter and hotter global average temperatures.
 
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