Austria sues European Union, claiming natural gas and nuclear energy are not 'green'

tetrasect

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Sorry to destroy your marital bliss ;)


Why am I not surprised that the person who made that video is just another hack blogger pretending to be a scientist...

Dr Susan Crockford is known for her blog posts on polar bear biology, which are unsupported by the scientific literature and oppose the scientific consensus that polar bears are threatened by ongoing climate change.

Crockford is a signatory of the International Conference on Climate Change's 2008 Manhattan Declaration, which states that "Carbon dioxide and other 'greenhouse gas' emissions from human activity...appear to have only a very small impact on global climate," and "Global cooling has presented serious problems for human society and the environment throughout history while global warming has generally been highly beneficial."

According to a 2018 study by Netherlands ecology professor Jeffrey Harvey and others, while Crockford has neither conducted any original research nor published any articles in the peer-reviewed literature on the effects of sea ice on the population dynamics of polar bears, her blog, Polar Bear Science, was a primary source used by websites that either deny or are skeptical of climate change, with over 80 percent citing it as their primary source of information on polar bears.
 
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Why am I not surprised that the person who made that video is just another hack pretending to be a scientist...

Dr Susan Crockford is known for her blog posts on polar bear biology, which are unsupported by the scientific literature and oppose the scientific consensus that polar bears are threatened by ongoing climate change.

Crockford is a signatory of the International Conference on Climate Change's 2008 Manhattan Declaration, which states that "Carbon dioxide and other 'greenhouse gas' emissions from human activity...appear to have only a very small impact on global climate," and "Global cooling has presented serious problems for human society and the environment throughout history while global warming has generally been highly beneficial."

According to a 2018 study by Netherlands ecology professor Jeffrey Harvey and others, while Crockford has neither conducted any original research nor published any articles in the peer-reviewed literature on the effects of sea ice on the population dynamics of polar bears, her blog, Polar Bear Science, was a primary source used by websites that either deny or are skeptical of climate change, with over 80 percent citing it as their primary source of information on polar bears.
Dig deeper, also the other way, but without bias.
 

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Dig deeper, also the other way, but without bias.

Blogger / climate change denialist who hasn't published any peer reviewed research knows better than the actual scientists who have.

Cool story.

Kinda like those "doctors" who pivoted from selling all-healing magic bleach to selling IVM prescriptions while telling people that vaccines will kill them knew better than actual scientists.

You guys sure know how to pick'em.

You guys should check out this dude called Nassim Haramein. He will blow you mind with the "real" physics that makes Stephen Hawking look like a primary school kid. The fact that real scientists say he's a lunatic who's talking gibberish is all the more reason to believe him, right?
 
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Blogger / climate change denialist who hasn't published any peer reviewed research knows better than the actual scientists who have.

Cool story.

Kinda like those "doctors" who pivoted from selling all-healing magic bleach to selling IVM prescriptions while telling people that vaccines will kill them knew better than actual scientists.

You guys sure know how to pick'em.

You guys should check out this dude called Nassim Haramein. He will blow you mind with the "real" physics that makes Stephen Hawking look like a primary school kid. The fact that real scientists say he's a lunatic who's talking gibberish is all the more reason to believe him, right?

I guess the defense is to drop those not swallowing all the Kool-aid into the conspiracy theory pool? I think I've watched that one before though ... any others?

All the "follow the science" becomes mumbo jumbo stupidity when the same seal is said to have fallen to his death due to two totally different reasons by the same person. But let's rather not question it, the seal dropped off the edge of the world - muhahahaha!

Awkward ...
 

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I guess the defense is to drop those not swallowing all the Kool-aid into the conspiracy theory pool? I think I've watched that one before though ... any others?

All the "follow the science" becomes mumbo jumbo stupidity when the same seal is said to have fallen to his death due to two totally different reasons by the same person. But let's rather not question it, the seal dropped off the edge of the world - muhahahaha!

Awkward ...

Yeah sure. Science is rubbish. Trust Howdy's whimsical opinions instead. He's the real expert on all things. :rolleyes:
 

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Yeah sure. Science is rubbish. Trust Howdy's whimsical opinions instead. He's the real expert on all things. :rolleyes:
Oh, is this where I start playing your game? Are you a qualified and certified expert on polar bear suicides. where you hero literally contradicts himself?

Schrödinger's polar bear :sneaky:
 

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Oh, is this where I start playing your game? Are you a qualified and certified expert on polar bear suicides. where you hero literally contradicts himself?

Schrödinger's polar bear :sneaky:

I'm not the one claiming to know more than scientists do. And scientific consensus says that climate change affects polar bears regardless of whether or not a contradictory statement was once made by someone who is not even a scientist himself.
 

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To claim that Science has shown that CO2 emissions is responsible for (is the cause of) "global warming" and/or "climate change" is simply not true.
Several competing hypotheses, still rage on as they have for more than 400 years. The arguments still pivot around whether changes in the atmospheric composition are a cause, an effect, or part of a feedback loop. It is these issues that are at the bottom of all the debates about CC/AGW, whatever you want to call it.
 

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I'm not the one claiming to know more than scientists do. And scientific consensus says that climate change affects polar bears regardless of whether or not a contradictory statement was once made by someone who is not even a scientist himself.

May I book you a summer camping trip to Greenland? While selling you a French tower and a bridge in London?

The southern NWP route was first navigated by Roald Amundsen over three summers, 1905 to 1908. In recent years, his circuitous route, winding through narrow and shallow channels, has often opened for at least part of the summer. However, even in recent years, the more direct northern route through Parry Channel, with wide and deep channels more suitable for shipping, has remained choked with ice

What did out forefathers do a 100 years back! :oops:
 

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May I book you a summer camping trip to Greenland? While selling you a French tower and a bridge in London?



What did out forefathers do a 100 years back! :oops:

Do you even bother to read what you link and type?

They are talking about 2 different routes.
The southern NWP route was first navigated by Roald Amundsen over three summers, 1905 to 1908. In recent years, his circuitous route, winding through narrow and shallow channels, has often opened for at least part of the summer. However, even in recent years, the more direct northern route through Parry Channel, with wide and deep channels more suitable for shipping, has remained choked with ice

And the part a bit further down that you failed to quote:
Overall, the ice area in the northern route reached the fourth lowest in the 55-year record of Canadian Arctic sea ice conditions

Not to mention your glossing over graphs like this:
Figure-3-1024x791.png



So far you have shown us two instruments in your toolbox with which you have attempted to show your superiority over "regular" scientists who went to university and did actual research and all that other useless stuff:

1.) The complete lack of understanding.

2.) The inability to read.

Got any more weapons in that arsenal?
 

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Oh, is this where I start playing your game? Are you a qualified and certified expert on polar bear suicides. where you hero literally contradicts himself?

Schrödinger's polar bear :sneaky:
I burst out laughing.
Very witty and wickedly funny.
Still laughing.
 

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Several competing hypotheses, still rage on as they have for more than 400 years. The arguments still pivot around whether changes in the atmospheric composition are a cause, an effect, or part of a feedback loop. It is these issues that are at the bottom of all the debates about CC/AGW, whatever you want to call it.
Yup.
 

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I'm not the one claiming to know more than scientists do. And scientific consensus says that climate change affects polar bears regardless of whether or not a contradictory statement was once made by someone who is not even a scientist himself.
So you admit that you trust/believe "the scientists" without knowing any of "the science"?
They must be right, because (for no other reason than) they are "experts?

How is that not an argument from authority?
 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction:_The_Facts

Let the government tax people and they will change the weather or something like that.

It is outright propaganda. Let have a look at a government free from the evils of the private sector, like China, and see how they are doing. You know since the government is the perfect entity to do

Anyone who talks about the evils of overpopulation should be very specific of who they don't want to be born
Lol I didn't even need to look it up.

The problem is unthinking people fall for this nonsense because it half identifies a real problem (pollution, tradegy of the commons, with the over use of communal land/resources.) And then propose some ridiculous idealistic fixes that sound really nice on the surface if you don't know anything. And backs that up with useless "science", incomplete models of nothing.
 
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Do you even bother to read what you link and type?

They are talking about 2 different routes.


And the part a bit further down that you failed to quote:


Not to mention your glossing over graphs like this:
Figure-3-1024x791.png



So far you have shown us two instruments in your toolbox with which you have attempted to show your superiority over "regular" scientists who went to university and did actual research and all that other useless stuff:

1.) The complete lack of understanding.

2.) The inability to read.

Got any more weapons in that arsenal?
And not eating meat stops this how?

The ice will melt and the sea levels will rise.
 
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