AWS CEO tells workers to quit if they don't want to come back to the office

The market will settle eventually. A lot of in office is around the mentality of bums in seat or time watching, which is already majorly counter productive.

Amazon, like Azure, took a massive knock post covid as the demand for online services grew but ramped back down.
 
i find it to be a tough balancing act - -returning to the office means you can better monitor and control the masses...but on the flip side of that you lose productivity of your best people as they are now commuting, fetching kids etc and you lose those hours

if people want to colaborate they will even remotely -- if you are not invested and just floating along you deserve to be called back in so someonce can light a fire under your ***
 
bwana said:
Since when did working from the office become controversial?
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Since people got a `hardon` for WFH, which wasn't even really a big thing before 2020. Since then, people have been will to give up being employed, if they can't work remotely.

I really don't understand it, prior to then, you commuted in traffic, picked up kids, whatever else, while working in an office. Now it seems to be an issue.
 
Bismuth said:
Since people got a `hardon` for WFH, which wasn't even really a big thing before 2020. Since then, people have been will to give up being employed, if they can't work remotely.

I really don't understand it, prior to then, you commuted in traffic, picked up kids, whatever else, while working in an office. Now it seems to be an issue.
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Adulting is too hard.
 
Good this combined with Trump winning the elections, The USA's GDP is going to increase significantly.
 
We did WFH long before the 'rona came along.
We tried it somewhere in 2018 and the returns were tangible.
At the time the issue was the office was too small, and the noise from "other departments" specifically them pestering us with dumb questions was an issue. It helped that my then manager was a big advocate for it. So when the 'rona came it was Business-as-usual for us, no real disruptions or "plans" having to be made.

As a software developer, you can code from anywhere, and do whatever needs doing from anywhere. Factory slaves, and others who need to turn screws in, and assemble stuff, not so much. So much of today's office work can be done from home, and WAS done from home during the 'rona, but, the disgraced Kings got lonely.. they missed the days of being able to pick on the workers and lord over them.

That is what it's about, the managers need their subordinates back, otherwise their self esteem suffers
 
We were told the same thing in August, the day before i was meant to be back in the office, i got Covid for the 2nd time so i got an extra 2 weeks at home, been at the office since, traffic sucks, have to wake up 2 hours earlier, get home an hour later due to traffic. We still have most of the company either full time WFH or hybrid, its just our department that is back full time, although a few other 'scarce skills' staff are allowed WFH because those staff keep resigning so they trying to keep them happy. I want to see what they do when i leave seen as im the only person in my department who can do what i do LOL. Been applying anywhere and everywhere and saw today ive been short listed for a position in another area of the business who is still doing Hybrid. In a presentation last week the COO even mentioned we have a Hybrid policy in place however some managers dont use it, we have complained but nothing gets done so i will be taking them up on the offer to leave because im not happy.
 
Just did a rough calculation. 93 Petrol in March 2020 when lockdown started was R15.52 per litre, to today is R20.73, over R6 per litre more. i travel roughly 1600km per month just to work and back, its a costs a lot more in travelling fees and time. To go back to the office i had to buy a new car as my wife wrote hers off in 2022 and she took over mine and i didnt bother replacing mine so thats another R2500 per month plus around R2500 for fuel per month that i have to pay extra now that im back at the office and im not earning even half that more from 2020 to now, increases were crappy during covid times and it doesnt seem it will be approving over the next few years. Not to mention the robots that are permanently out so traffic is way worse than before.

Thank goodness i bought a figo tdci so fuel costs are not too bad, i get roughly 21km per litre of diesel. If i was still driving a petrol car, the fuel price would be closer to the 4k mark in a petrol car, i was averaging around 13 km/l in my 1.6 chev aveo.
 
Realistically, no one size fits all businesses and all workers.

Our company has never been more productive since working from home started, but then everything is task and deadline driven so there is nowhere to hide if you aren't performing, whether you sit at a desk at home or at the office.
 
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