Ban on alcohol and cigarettes in South Africa

[greg0205]

Done.

When is rpm announcing the winners?

 

[Cray]

Done.

When is rpm announcing the winners?

Hopefully we all win...

 

[HelterSkelter]

I think submissions already closed at 12 noon today.

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

Added my 2c.

Unbanning of alcohol and tobacco, allowing takeaways and drivethroughs and removal the curfew...

 

[ToxicBunny]

I think submissions already closed at 12 noon today.

That would be a bit problematic, since nowhere did I see mention of this in any public place until today...

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

I think submissions already closed at 12 noon today.

So submissions have been done on a platform that nobody's heard of before?

Why haven't they promoted the submission process as much as they have the useless cloth masks?

 

[Cray]

So submissions have been done on a platform that nobody's heard of before?

Why haven't they promoted the submission process as much as they have the useless cloth masks?

Reminds me of this passage from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy...

“But Mr Dent, the plans have been available in the local planning office for the last nine months.”
“Oh yes, well as soon as I heard I went straight round to see them, yesterday afternoon. You hadn’t exactly gone out of your way to call attention to them, had you? I mean, like actually telling anybody or anything.”
“But the plans were on display …”
“On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.”
“That’s the display department.”
“With a flashlight.”
“Ah, well the lights had probably gone.”
“So had the stairs.”
“But look, you found the notice didn’t you?”
“Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard’.”

 

[wtg]

I submitted now and it accepted and confirmed my submission

 

[MiW]

Reminds me of this passage from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy...

Well, he managed to get out, no such a luck here.

 

[AlphaJohn]

Replied to this, everyone here should leave there opinion, spread it to to smokers groups etc, that way ndz can't use that as an excuse again, cigarettes and alcohol should be on sale on all levels of lockdown imo.

Did not stop her last time when we had 2 000 against and 70 000 for the sale of smokes. What makes you think its going to now?

 

[ToxicBunny]

Did not stop her last time when we had 2 000 against and 70 000 for the sale of smokes. What makes you think its going to now?

We don't know how many were for... Just thst they had 70 submissions overall.

 

[bwana]

Did not stop her last time when we had 2 000 against and 70 000 for the sale of smokes. What makes you think its going to now?

The thing is last time hardly anyone voiced a pro tobacco opinion because it was a "given" that people would be able to get tobacco.

 

[Ben Brandt]

forcing heavy smokers to quit "cold turkey" can cause depression, anxiety, short term eating disorders, concentration problems, irritability, aggression and other forms of emotional instability.

The CAMH did a in-depht study on this in 2011

On its own, the side effects of nicotine withdrawal can easily be managed with the following coping mechanisms:
1) Join a support group (quitting can be traumatic for some ... mostly for the people close to you due to your emotional instability)
2) Walking, Running or some form of outdoor activity
3) Spending time with friends and family
3) Eating sweets, jelly beans or more food... the cravings can be hectic.

But couple this with the lock-down regulations, confinement, restriction of movement, abuse of power by law enforcement, partial or full loss of income, alcohol withdrawals, kids acting up and all the resulting fear, anger, anxiety and irritation towards some of the officials' blatant disregard of the rules with little or no consequences resulting from this... then forcing people to stop alcohol and tobacco use cold turkey is down right irresponsible.

Women and Child abuse goes up... people start breaking the law to buy bootleg smokes or produce unsafe beverages at home ... all the whilst those tasked to enforce the ban sells the confiscated goods at ridiculous prices.

This ban increased violence in homes, theft(those who cannot afford the hiked prices will steal to afford it). approx 7 million smokers instantly became criminals, children in once safe environments get scarred for life and so on.

And things like this "https://www.thesouthafrican.com/new...ni-cigarettes-illegalwho-is-adriano-mazzotti/" does not help the emotional state of those affected by the ban at all. Why is this guy not in jail ... the other day i witnessed a mother and teen son getting thrown in the back of a police van quite violently for not having on a mask ... surely this incident merits the same ?

Non smokers would not understand why smokers are acting up over this.

To sum it up, smoking is banned and most of the coping mechanisims for nicotine withdrawals is at present also banned... So ... call it wat it is... a high horse.

*This ban was not implemented to force people to stop smoking ... it was done to close down the competition.

 

[dualmeister]

You ban stuff people are going to make a plan. Cooler was empty yesterday......

 

[SNLV30]

RFC now open on stage 3 regulations.

click to comment on level 3 lockdown regulations (48hrs)

Government has put in the public domain a draft framework for the Risk-Adjusted Strategy to bring different sectors of the economy under Level Four of the Lockdown back to work as announced by President Cyril Ramaphosa

dearsouthafrica.co.za

Based on this reply to Dean McPherson,

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1262430832645586945

NDZ used DearSA comments.
Comment something appropriate,k thanx bye.

Everytime I check the 'first ten comments' atleast 8 are asking to lift the ban on sigarettes we can only dream

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Melissa

Not fully

My comments relate to point E. DO Bring back tobacco products as the illegal trade is killing the already suffering exonomy and also causes even more poverty among already financially struggling smokers. Simply DON'T bring back the sale of liquor as alcohol consumption will increase the rate of infections because alcohol inhibits a responsible person's actions and mind. Alcohol consumption will certainly ruin all the sacrifices we have already made to flatten the curve.

Melissa, kindly go feck yourself.

I don't expect either Melissa or Catherine to be doing that, I do appeal to the all knowing spaghetti monster to arrange a demonic tentacle rape for them both though.

 

[Lupus]

I don't expect either Melissa or Catherine to be doing that, I do appeal to the all knowing spaghetti monster to arrange a demonic tentacle rape for them both though.

No, I don't want his noodley appendage to be ruined.

 

[Groen92]

I don't expect either Melissa or Catherine to be doing that, I do appeal to the all knowing spaghetti monster to arrange a demonic tentacle rape for them both though.

They'll eat their words when Fattis & Monis, soap and coffee are banned next.

 

[Solarion]

Doubt you would be successful. The argument would be made that you were a statistical outlier and that the ban was put in place for the greater good.

The greater good being that a small part of the population share cigs. With that logic you may as well remove everything that everyone shares like door handles, taps, money and anything in a shop that can be picked up and put back on the shelf. I mean hell if you really want to be pedantic just ban every car on the road and post boxes.

 

[Solarion]

NDZ would only ever truly be happy if everyone walked around in full on Chernobyl protective gear carrying goddam geiger counters around and being sprayed by safety showers every time they entered a shop.