Ban on alcohol and cigarettes in South Africa

[Lupus]

The one thing that is very evident from the back to school plan, is that the people coming up with the plan are totally divorced from the reality of the education system in this country.

Yup, like they were shocked to know 3500 of the schools didn't have running water, they are also saying that classrooms should have a 2m gap between each kid and such idiotic stances. It's like you're the DOE you should know what the frak is going on in your own department.

 

[Lupus]

I can guarantee you anyone with children during this lockdown are dying to send them away to be someone else's problem.

I'm not dying to send them away, I just want them to be able to finish the year properly. Though at this point our son is in a small school that basically can practice home schooling as well as social distancing if needed, the school work he does gets graded every day, he has the occassional zoom session with his teacher. Luckily he's not a really social child being an only child he's learnt to adapt to doing things his own way.
My neices though were here before the lockdown, luckily they apparently can go home in level 4 if need be. But at this point their mom isn't an essential worker and she's getting in little income so she'd struggle to feed them, so I'm happy for them to stay a bit longer as well.

 

[minkukel]

I really wish I had a contact to buy smokes from in PTA round about now...

Pretty sure you will find something in Scummyside. Live is normal there.

 

[Neoprod]

I can guarantee you anyone with children during this lockdown are dying to send them away to be someone else's problem.

But they come home each day...and they might be coming home with a present for mommy and daddy that makes the lockdown pointless.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1255771722466430977

Oh lord. Even Eusebius agrees...

 

[Lupus]

But they come home each day...and they might be coming home with a present for mommy and daddy that makes the lockdown pointless.

You know mommy and daddy who are essential workers are also coming home every day and might be coming home with something as well. The whole point of the freaking lockdown was to prepare the health care system for the spreading of the virus. Not to hold everyone back indefinitely, because this virus isn't going anywhere so living in a bubble doesn't protect you, it just makes you live in a bubble.

 

[WorldWarIII]

No I am not one of the 2000. I support the ban on the following grounds:

1. We are in the midst of a respiratory disease, smoking doesn't seem like a good idea. Now, ordinarily I would say let's leave it up to people to make the right decision, but as this tread has shown, people act like spoilt kids so the government will treat them like kids.
2. I hate smokers. Most of them are inconsiderate pricks who think the world is thier dust bin for stompies. Also smokers give off a certain whiff which I find disgusting.
3. Some people have a low self-will. This might just be the push they need to quit.

but woman that smoke usually put out very easy. How else will we know if everyone stops?

 

[daveza]

 

[Nerfherder]

Dlamini Zuma just quoted on radio as saying something like , the new restrictions were well received , the subject that got the most submissions was exercise .

yes - shows how important is is.

They should have never banned it - rather let people exercise then take it away when people misbehave.

 

[MrGray]

rather let people exercise then take it away when people misbehave.

That's a no from me. Nobody should have the power to "let" you exercise, let alone the power to decide if you'e misbehaving and take it away.

How about we just do go where we want as long as we don't trespass from now on? Odd concept, I know, but one that has been enshrined in the constitutions of free countries for centuries.

 

[Fargle]

Not much has changed since the bad old days of apartheid, except that now the victims are the coughers.

'Ghuvment' had better hope that they're not the one's on the receiving end of an armed struggle.
You'd think given their history, that they'd be well aware of just how that can happen.

Their freedom struggle was a sham and they have failed the very people they liberated.

 

[Mekon]

June, 2023

what's June 2023?

 

[ToxicBunny]

Ahhhh seems some of the details are coming out...

Looks like Amalgamated Tobacco products are some of the brands that are easily available during the lockdown and wouldn't you know that Edward Zuma is one of the directors of the entity that owns Amalgamated Tobacco.

 

[Creag]

South Africa’s ban on tobacco gives cabinet minister Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma an opportunity to complete a crusade she began more than two decades ago: to stop people smoking.

Dlamini-Zuma, a medical doctor and former health minister, on Wednesday vehemently defended the government’s reversal of its decision to allow the sale of tobacco products when a five-week nationwide lockdown eases on Friday. The shutdown, one of the strictest in the world, outlawed the sale of alcohol and cigarettes and President Cyril Ramaphosa had said April 23 restrictions on tobacco would be relaxed.

The government received more than 2 000 submissions about the proposal to end the moratorium, and the decision to retain it is health-related, Dlamini-Zuma said. She cited the effects of tobacco on human lungs, and said “the way tobacco is shared does not allow for social distancing,” and encourages the spread of the virus.

SA tobacco ban revives minister’s two-decade crusade

The government received more than 2 000 submissions about the proposal to end the moratorium.

www.moneyweb.co.za

 

[LetsDance]

I wish they were easily available where I live. Have a spaza shop near me with a sign outside saying "Do not even try to ask for cigarettes". The name Zuma along with Gupta are swear words.

 

[LetsDance]

South Africa’s ban on tobacco gives cabinet minister Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma an opportunity to complete a crusade she began more than two decades ago: to stop people smoking.

She enjoys this for sure - she sure can mumble though. Squeak up.

 

[Moosedrool]

I wish they were easily available where I live. Have a spaza shop near me with a sign outside saying "Do not even try to ask for cigarettes". The name Zuma along with Gupta are swear words.

I'm truly pro smokers just openly searching for the better retailers. Black market or not.

 

[Temujin]

SA tobacco ban revives minister’s two-decade crusade

The government received more than 2 000 submissions about the proposal to end the moratorium.

www.moneyweb.co.za

She cited the effects of tobacco on human lungs

Dlamini-Zuma, a medical doctor

Not a very good one... damage is done for smokers, stopping today won't help against the virus tomorrow or next week, a virus in 10 years maybe, but now, nope, all it does is add more stress to an already stressed time, which I'd argue putting a body into withdrawl shock increases risk

 

[borro]

what's June 2023?

Euphemism of sorts. I don't think there's any coming back from this.

 

[Moosedrool]

Not a very good one... damage is done for smokers, stopping today won't help against the virus tomorrow or next week, a virus in 10 years maybe, but now, nope, all it does is add more stress to an already stressed time, which I'd argue putting a body into withdrawl shock increases risk

You can say this over and over to these morons. They still don't understand that it takes years for any valuable respiratory improvement because they only listen to what they want to hear.

Anyone still using this argument are truly idiots.