Ban on alcohol and cigarettes in South Africa

[Groen92]

We received a company wide memo stating that we will operate as if still under level 5.

I think there is no lvl 4. They just rebranded lvl 5.

 

[VooDooC]

Coronavirus: Lockdown Op-Ed 3: Up in Smoke: Public reflections on decision to extend the ban on tobacco sales

A University of Johannesburg and Human Sciences Research Council survey suggests that, on average, the public supports the decision made by the government in maintaining the ban on cigarette sales, in line with the public input received by the National Command Council. However, an analysis of...

www.dailymaverick.co.za

And what was their sample group? Did they ask 10 of their colleagues to fill in a questionnaire?

All these so called "studies" that they're doing is horse shite same as the so called "86% of South Africans support the lockdown" BS

 

[pinball wizard]

And what was their sample group? Did they ask 10 of their colleagues to fill in a questionnaire?

All these so called "studies" that they're doing is horse shite same as the so called "86% of South Africans support the lockdown" BS

It's the same sample group that was used when that other wanker declared that South Africans love SAA.

 

[Groen92]

And what was their sample group? Did they ask 10 of their colleagues to fill in a questionnaire?

All these so called "studies" that they're doing is horse shite same as the so called "86% of South Africans support the lockdown" BS

They certainly did a thumb suck there.

 

[gottagoon]

RG finished here. Now smoking Sahawi @ R35/pack (until that runs out too or price increases to R80+).

We ****ed

 

[Drifter]

Smoking Red & Black now. Tastes like horse chit would taste like I think.

 

[Nerfherder]

I can't see many restaurants surving this even with food deliveries.

I saw quite a few shut down as soon as the lockdown happened. I think that what they have done is just close up and save us much money as possible and then start a "new" restaurant as soon as the lockdown allows.

Its brutal in terms of employees and rent but its a survivalist tactic.

 

[Aghori]

Fxk me I remember Sahawi from Mozambique. I'd rather quit smoking than smoke that shyte. Luckily there's tons f suppliers here for skyfs and dops.

 

[gottagoon]

Fxk me I remember Sahawi from Mozambique. I'd rather quit smoking than smoke that shyte. Luckily there's tons f suppliers here for skyfs and dops.

Addicted old smokers like me can't be choosy . That's life I guess.

 

[daveza]

lol - Minister with his petition to support the ban on cigs.... on Cape Talk

"We are aiming for 1 million votes and have 12,000 so we are doing very well"

 

[Groen92]

lol - Minister with his petition to support the ban on cigs.... on Cape Talk

"We are aiming for 1 million votes and have 12,000 so we are doing very well"

Sign the Petition

Lift the ban on cigarette sales in South Africa

www.change.org

We raise you 494K.

 

[sand_man]

lol - Minister with his petition to support the ban on cigs.... on Cape Talk

"We are aiming for 1 million votes and have 12,000 so we are doing very well"

Thinks he's half way...

 

[Lupus]

lol - Minister with his petition to support the ban on cigs.... on Cape Talk

"We are aiming for 1 million votes and have 12,000 so we are doing very well"

What? But the unban is at 500 000?

 

[Lupus]

Thinks he's half way...

Numbers, they don't know them.

 

[patrick123]

lol - Minister with his petition to support the ban on cigs.... on Cape Talk

"We are aiming for 1 million votes and have 12,000 so we are doing very well"

He's got JZ doing the numbers.

 

[gottagoon]

Numbers, they don't know them.

Seems like none of them can count.

 

[Lupus]

Seems like none of them can count.

Nope

 

[Sneeky]

Cyril Ramaphosa | Cigarette ban a 'collective decision', not ministers doing whatever they want | News24

Every regulation we have put in place has been carefully considered. Along the way there has been consultation with medical experts, various constituencies and different industries, writes <strong>President Cyril Ramaphosa</strong>.

m.news24.com

Looks like he's been instructed by NDZ to clear the air...

This bit intrigues me

At this stage in the progress of the pandemic, other countries had far more infections than we do. As of now – which is 46 days since we recorded our 100th coronavirus case – we have 6 783 confirmed cases. Italy, which has a similar size population to ours, had more than 140 000 cases and the United States had around 700 000 confirmed cases at the 46-day mark.

So just how much testing has been done in SA?

If you want to compare numbers with Italy as you have done, then you would need to at least be in the same ballpark for testing surely?

From Wiki

As of 3 May 2020, Italy is one of the world's centres of active coronavirus cases with 100,179 active cases.[17] The total of confirmed cases is 210,717 with 28,884 deaths, and 81,654 recoveries or dismissals.[2] By 3 May, Italy had conducted about 2,153,800 tests for the virus, and tested about 1,456,900 people.[18] Due to the limited number of tests performed, the real number of infected people in Italy, as in other countries, is estimated to be higher than the official count.[19][20][21] On 19 March, Italy became the country with the highest number of confirmed coronavirus deaths in the world; however, on 11 April, it was overtaken by the United States.[22][23]

http://www.salute.gov.it/imgs/C_17_notizie_4623_0_file.pdf

So swabbed 1,7m and tested 1,2m people.
Are we there yet? If we are and have only 6783 infections I doff my cap Mr President.

The US, from what I can find has performed over 7 million tests to date and are currently conducting over 200 000 new tests per day.

Our Data

covidtracking.com

So with the info I can find on the net, tests/people

US 1:43
Italy 1:35
SA 1:300 (27/4 number)

By 27 April, the 185497 tests had been performed on South African residents, with the the public sector now doing the majority of the tests. Provincial test coverage varied by over a factor of 8. The number of tests per 100000 residents (based on 2019 population estimates) was Northwest 66, Limpopo 69, Mpumalanga 101, Northern Cape 111, Eastern Cape 247, KwaZulu-Natal 270, Free State 284, Gauteng 439, and Western Cape 541 (national average 317). A surveillance programme had been started to monitor community transmission (as opposed to tests done on people who displayed symptoms or who had been in contact with COVID-19 patients). In the three arms of the programme 812 tests had been done and two cases had been detected.[11]

COVID-19 pandemic in South Africa - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

These numbers are of course a moving target each day but I don't see how we can be compared to Italy or anyone else frankly. I would hold off on the self back patting for now.

 

[R13...]

lol - Minister with his petition to support the ban on cigs.... on Cape Talk

"We are aiming for 1 million votes and have 12,000 so we are doing very well"

The ANC and their fringe loons probably see this as a class/race war. As if the poor aren't already buying the illicit brands as they've been doing even before the lockdown because that's all they can afford.

 

[TheChamp]

This bit intrigues me


So just how much testing has been done in SA?

If you want to compare numbers with Italy as you have done, then you would need to at least be in the same ballpark for testing surely?

From Wiki

http://www.salute.gov.it/imgs/C_17_notizie_4623_0_file.pdf

So swabbed 1,7m and tested 1,2m people.
Are we there yet? If we are and have only 6783 infections I doff my cap Mr President.

The US, from what I can find has performed over 7 million tests to date and are currently conducting over 200 000 new tests per day.

Our Data

covidtracking.com

So with the info I can find on the net, tests/people

US 1:43
Italy 1:35
SA 1:300 (27/4 number)

COVID-19 pandemic in South Africa - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

These numbers are of course a moving target each day but I don't see how we can be compared to Italy or anyone else frankly. I would hold off on the self back patting for now.

I think you missed this part, it gives context to what he is saying.

At this stage in the progress of the pandemic, other countries had far more infections than we do.