Battery solution - Nian Electronics - 4x102AH - 6000W Power - anyone use it?

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Dodge.

Price is high, not nearly enough batteries for the claimed draw. 3000 W on 204 Ah, lol !
 

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Dodge.

Price is high, not nearly enough batteries for the claimed draw. 3000 W on 204 Ah, lol !

But its the "NVIDIA GTX 980TI G1 Gaming 6144MB Grapics Card" of inverters man, don't let anyone tell you otherwise! Good deal I tell you!
 

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Why you are disingenuously trying to compare this to a fully wired in Axpert in an attempt to defend these people is beyond me.

Uhm - I'm not defending them? Frankly, I've stated just the opposite, read what I've said please. Their run time promise is absurd!

What I am saying is for a 3kW/205Ah Axpert at R22K and 6kW/408Ah (5kW if we're still at Axpert) at R35K is reasonable for a PSW inverter, fully installed (into DB).

I am not saying 1) THEIR cost for THEIR inverter is justified, neither am I saying that THEIR inverter with THEIR batteries, will supply the run time that they promise. Frankly, as others have stated - the charger is more than likely extra too...
 

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Looks like it. How are they going to get to 48V with two batteries?

4 x 12V/102Ah in series. Which means the 6kW unit only has 102Ah behind it. That just makes it even worse in terms of run time :wtf:

The 3kW is more than likely a 24V system (2 x 12V/102Ah, so also just 102Ah behind that)
 

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Looks like it. How are they going to get to 48V with two batteries?

Edit: I see there are different models.

Same manufacturer probably has a similar 24v and 12v model, lots of very similar looking things floating around on ali :p
 

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Oh and no mention of a charger. Sold separately I'm sure.

At least you will have a LOT of time to charge those batteries, since the discharge time will only be approx. 10 minutes. Then wait 2h20 minutes and charge until next loadshedding.

With all these 100% DoD cycles those batteries will last maybe 2 months.

What a joke. Can we not get this sales guy to answer some questions here on MyBB ?? If he can spare time between selling snake oil and fuel saving kits.........
 

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4 x 12V/102Ah in series. Which means the 6kW unit

Or that, though they claim that is a 6000w not 3000w. Same manufacturer will have a whole range available though all looking the same, so probably the 3000w is 24v or 12v.
 
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Same stands. Going on the ~R23999 3000W system

It is this inverter http://santak.en.alibaba.com/produc...IR3000_3000W_48V_Pure_sine_wave_inverter.html
Cost between R5000-R7000
Unknown batteries (exact battery makes a huge difference) - Lets be generous and say the two batteries are worth R4000
Ultralan battery cabinet - (Lets assume they use the same but smaller cabinet in the picture) - Is the cabinet even included? - R900
Wiring and fuses - (Being generous again) - R1500

So thats ~R13400 plus a bit for the installation.. So as originally stated the price is hefty.


Then there are several questions:
1) It is being wired into the DB, is it even legal to do that with that specific inverter? (Possibly but I don't know)
2) If you actually try power the geyser or some of the other things they have stated on it you will probably burn your house down
3) The only way you will get near the times given is if you are only running one small device off it like a computer - at which point you have to ask, why wire it into the DB?



So my advice, avoid these guys, it seems quite clear they are dodgy and just want quick money :(

If you really want to spend that kind of money (25k+) then get a decent sized system that is not this one, you still probably don't want to power your geyser or stove from that though.
If you just want to watch TV or use a computer or something, then get a smaller system like other people have described, you can throw an adequate smaller system (don't wire it to the DB just plug the device in question straight into it) from 8000+ depending on your needs.

Either way start first by measuring what it is you actually require and work from there.
 

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The batteries and load isn't a good match. If you ran it at max 3000W those 2x102Ah batteries aren't going to last long at all.
 

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Stumbled across this the other day. Have sent them an email to request more info (their website does not work). TBH, I have not spend much time on alternative power solutions but judging from how much money some people have spent on generators, their solutions sound to overpromise - or? I mean a geyser is and refrigerator chow throw power like crazy (and if you double up, you can literally support stove/oven/waterpump) - any feedback:

Update: Got some more info, just had no time to post it yet - here we go:

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OK, so I looked at the new brochure that you attached.

It is impossible to run all that equipment on a 50Ah battery for 4 - 5 hours. Or what am I missing here???
 
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