BBBEE 'has reinforced white supremacy' - Thuli Madonsela on why SA needs to relook at model

Lupus

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This has been said for years, the moment you say another group needs special cases, makes the other groups seem more superior. Instead of equity which is what is needed not equality. There are also 50 million blacks and under 5 million whites, so even if you did get rid of all of the whites you're still in a rut.
It's also made it so that there is supremacy as the whites have to work extra hard and push themselves harder to get jobs or make money so they excel, not saying there aren't blacks who do this, but they will always be looked at as BEE candidates.
 

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Even the black people at work call certain jobs a BEE job. [a Bad job}
 

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TLDR: Racism is racism, doesn't matter when it happens, or who is affected, or what the motivation is.
isnt there supposed to be one SA for all?
 

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TLDR: Racism is racism, doesn't matter when it happens, or who is affected, or what the motivation is.
isnt there supposed to be one SA for all?
It's really telling about these people's thought pattern.
White people not being as degraded economically as they had expected is considered "white supremacy".

Sounds like they have race-envy.
 

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Always great that now you can speak out about the man when you are not with and by the man. Well done, that really took courage and intel intellect.

I love these formers coming out :thumbsup:
 

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Sounds like they have race-envy.
no they have, its OUR time now, lets stick it to the Whiteys where the sun dont shine.
so this is why they like to flaunt their wealth constantly and show off when its unnecessary.
 

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This has been said for years, the moment you say another group needs special cases, makes the other groups seem more superior. Instead of equity which is what is needed not equality. There are also 50 million blacks and under 5 million whites, so even if you did get rid of all of the whites you're still in a rut.
It's also made it so that there is supremacy as the whites have to work extra hard and push themselves harder to get jobs or make money so they excel, not saying there aren't blacks who do this, but they will always be looked at as BEE candidates.
This is actually a well known issue in psychotherapy, essentially: how do you help someone with psychological issues to get to a point where they are self sufficient ...while also not convincing them that they are a basket case who cannot function without a shrink?

The fact is thought that (yes, even 25 years after democracy) the vast majority of PoC in this country are utterly disenfranchised with zero upward mobility. A lot of the users on this forum will argue that everything should be equal simply because PoC can now vote as if that some kind of a silver bullet for all social disease and not simply the least that one should expect from a civilised nation. Unfortunately 'just democracy' isn't enough to create a more equal society, as we can see.

We have a problem that needs to find a solution somehow, for everyones sake. A society that is more equal has less of the social disease that we all suffer from in our beloved SA.
 
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I get the impression that the whole theatre is blowing up, when proponents start making stupid and ridiculous statements then you know that the gig is up.
Proponents?? You need to learn a little more about Thuli Madonsela. She has long been a vocal critic of many things ANC.
 

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Perhaps it's better to say, BEE is reinforcing racism against white people, causing them to want and need to band together more vehemently. Calling it "White supremacy" is just a cop-out, but maybe someone will take notice because the headline says, "WHITE SUPREMACY".
 

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I get the impression that the whole theatre is blowing up, when proponents start making stupid and ridiculous statements then you know that the gig is up.
But never could be done when within the show; part of it or any time during it. Always nice to come-out when you've left or its gone to the shitters.
 

Herr der Verboten

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Perhaps it's better to say, BEE is reinforcing racism against white people, causing them to want and need to band together more vehemently. Calling it "White supremacy" is just a cop-out, but maybe someone will take notice because the headline says, "WHITE SUPREMACY".
ahaha. Remember only whites can be racists not blacks or corrupt. Going to laugh my head of when her skeletons comes out.

Also small word groups for the masses...
 
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